I mindlessly made my first roll 36 frames, and it seems OK but I didn't shoot it yet - it fits fine, however, didn't feel hard to crank towards the end or anything like that, and if I wiggle an inch or so of the leader in and out of the cassette, it doesn't bind or anything, seems perfectly normal. Also my EOS 3's auto-everything, transport-wise, had no issue with the short roll that I shot.
What is D96, and is it related to D76?
Love the glow, this is exactly the type of film I’ve been searching for given the demise of PolyPan F 50. Wouldn’t use it excessively, but now and again - might be good for weddings, you know the white dress in appropriate light, etc.
Ah, just read this: Lomography’s Babylon 13 (being ORWO DN21 based on what I’ve read in this thread) does appear to have an anti-halation layer, just not as effective as other films. Presumably because it’s a ‘copy’ film.It actually does have a anti halation layer, but it's designed for a printer lamp bulb, not camera shooting, so it doesn't work as well.
"Product description: ORWO DN21 (Duplicating Negative) is a low-speed, black and white film,
specifically designed for the production of black & white duplicate negatives from master positives,
or internegatives from reversal negatives. DN21 has panchromatic sensitivity, high sharpness,
and produces well-balanced grey values. There is a new AHU-Layer (Anti Halation Under-Layer)
between the emulsion layer and the clear base which will be uncolored during the processing.
Compare to: Eastman Fine Grain Duplicating Panchromatic
Please report back with your xtol development time and results...
This is the spec sheet for ORWO DN21: http://www.filmotec.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/V-I-TI-DN21-e.pdf It says the film guarantees an outstanding anti-halation.
If Babylon 13 is indeed the same film, and looking Huss’s glow-full images earlier, I think I’m confused.
For others with auto-everything transport-wise it would be nice if you give a quick report on how the auto-wind back went. It gets a bit worrying when Orwo apparently warns of as little as 10-15 being the safe maximum to load. {snip}
This is the spec sheet for ORWO DN21: http://www.filmotec.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/V-I-TI-DN21-e.pdf It says the film guarantees an outstanding anti-halation.
If Babylon 13 is indeed the same film, and looking Huss’s glow-full images earlier, I think I’m confused.
I’ve seen your images, Huss, they speak for themselves with lovely glow-full halation. When the manufacturers say ‘outstanding anti-halation‘ it has to be be said in context, but images tend to trump words. I think the context of ORWO DN21 is that the film was conceived and chemically arranged to be a ‘copy film’, and the ahl for copying may have different demands.My Lomo Babylon 13 is marked ORWO DN21 and has that wonderful glow. It seems that just because the spec sheet mentions one thing, reality may be another!
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
This is what I'm thinking - the anti-halation is effective in the film's intended use, but not how we are using it.Anti-halation requirements for a motion picture printer lamp brightness and full sunlight are quite different...
It has to be a translation error, doesn't it? People buy this film for its glow which is its outstanding "halation" property surely?. Isn't an outstanding anti-halation property one where the glow is eliminated to a degree that makes it outstanding amongst those films that themselves do not exhibit "glow"Well, the anti-halation properties do appear to stand out.
Perhaps a translation error along the way?
My Lomo Babylon 13 is marked ORWO DN21 and has that wonderful glow. It seems that just because the spec sheet mentions one thing, reality may be another!
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
As repeatedly hinted at in this thread copy and print films are exposed differently than camera films. This has effect on the prerequisite of halo appearing.
Granted that's a very modest print size, but with a 8x loop the grain is literally invisible.
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