Alternative to LF film? Ideally without silver?

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Hi,
I read the thread "Will film be banned" here today and I say to myself "what would i do in such a sad world"?

I recently started with carbon printing and with a large supply of dichromate I'm assured when it comes to printing.
But how to replace LF film if there will also be a problem with silver nitrate? Availability, price, etc.

I'm from Czech Republic so Fomapan is cheap here.....should I start stocking up or is there another ANALOG way to make a LF negative for contact printing?

Jan
 

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Silver nitrate has other uses besides making film and paper. It's not likely to become unavailable at any time. Prices will fluctuate, sure, but the silver nitrate will not likely ever be the bottleneck. Market dynamics are a different story.
Making film or a recording medium without silver...well, there's always digital. No other materials besides silver are known to be practical in image capture, so you're out of luck there.
Fortunately, there's no foreseeable end to film production yet. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 

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Silver nitrate has other uses besides making film and paper. It's not likely to become unavailable at any time. Prices will fluctuate, sure, but the silver nitrate will not likely ever be the bottleneck. Market dynamics are a different story.
Making film or a recording medium without silver...well, there's always digital. No other materials besides silver are known to be practical in image capture, so you're out of luck there.
Fortunately, there's no foreseeable end to film production yet. Enjoy it while it lasts.

As long as there is silver I think you can manufacture silver nitrate without bigger lab? Just take care of the fumes..

Please guys, stop worrying about future and live in the moment.
 

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As long as there is silver I think you can manufacture silver nitrate without bigger lab?
Yes, that too.
Although of course the complexity isn't so much in the making of silver nitrate, but elsewhere in the film making process. Still, Denise Ross from the Light Farm continues to prove it can be done at home.
 

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Yes, that too.
Although of course the complexity isn't so much in the making of silver nitrate, but elsewhere in the film making process. Still, Denise Ross from the Light Farm continues to prove it can be done at home.

Wetplate is the future :wink: :wink:
 

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Wetplate is the future :wink: :wink:

But how long until we can't get collodion? There have been ongoing attempts to eliminate nitrations from industry since the 1970s (DuPont famously, or infamously, announced they were eliminating all nitroglycerin manufacturing for explosives and propellants in that time frame, intending to offer only ammonium nitrate based mining explosives -- IIRC they had to walk that back because at a later date). Making collodion at home isn't impossible, but by the time we can't buy the stuff, it may be illegal, or nearly impossible to obtain feedstock of high enough purity to do the work safely (yes, you can nitrate cotton with battery acid and stump remover, but you won't get collodion out of it).

Then again, by then we'll probably be under "that which is not required is verboten."
 
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