AE (aperture priority) 35mm SLR?

[msbarnes]

Ah. I have never used MLU in 35mm. If you have to shoot on a tripod, you might as well go for medium/large format.

I too agree with this, but the choice is yours.

 

[L Gebhardt]

I really like the OM system, and use an OM-1. But I don't much care for the internal meter. If you want to get a camera for AE, I would get something with a matrix (Nikon's term) meter. My F100 has a very nice meter, but no mirror lockup. It's also bigger than the OM-1.

In general I tend to not need mirror lockup on 35mm since I don't use it on a tripod, as other's have mentioned.

I would recommend you look at the lens line up of the camera you wish to buy. Look at size, cost, and availability of fast lenses. Then find the best body in that brand. You probably won't go wrong with any of the big names.

 

[Rol_Lei Nut]

I'd also say that mirror lockup, if used frequently (tripod ect.), is a medium format thing.

However, some 35mm SLR cameras don't really need MLU (the mirror and shutter being well-dampened to start wirh), unless you are are using extremely long lenses (also a contadiction in terms - EXL and MLU are rarely a practical combination).

Anyway, the Rolleflex SL3003 also does multiple exposures brilliantly (no MLU), just to avoid the Nikon F3 popularity contest from being unchallenged...

 

[BobD]

The mirror on Nikon FE/FE2 cameras is automatically locked up whenever the self-timer is used so, in effect, this feature is available with those cameras. Same with the FM/FM2.

 

[clayne]

It's also automatically locked up when the battery dies. ;-).

(m250 mode descrews this btw)

 

[Aristotle80]

My first manual Nikon was an FM2n but like you I really wanted an aperture priority setting, so I got a Nikon FG, and LOVED it! Great meter, TTL flash option, good manual focus screen, and motor drive capable. For exposure modes it has full Manual, Aperture Priority, and full program if you want to hand it to your newbie friend and expect good exposures from him. It has a battery free shutter speed if you lose power. It's super cheap and easy to find two minty FGs for the cost of one beat up F3. Motor winders for the FG and FG20 are cheaper than the winders for F3. I know it doesn't have MLU, but I've taken great macros with it by using the self timer, which flips the mirror up 12 seconds early so you don't get the shake. On a tripod it's just as good.

 

[Chan Tran]

I never used the MLU features on my cameras but the OP asked for it we better suggest cameras that fit the OP want.

 

[baachitraka]

For Olympus, only the OM-1(N) has mirror lockup.

I own OM-2sp, the mirror lock up fuction can be enabled with self-timer. I use this functionality almost for all the shots when camera is mounted on a tripod.

If you prefer automatic(Aperture Priority/Fully automatic) OM-2sp will do a good job for you, but multiple exposure is little tricky with it.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

nikonfe

 

[Aristophanes]

Will this do?

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/...-lx-2000-millennium-brand-new-collection.html

 

[mopar_guy]

I own OM-2sp, the mirror lock up fuction can be enabled with self-timer. I use this functionality almost for all the shots when camera is mounted on a tripod.

If you prefer automatic(Aperture Priority/Fully automatic) OM-2sp will do a good job for you, but multiple exposure is little tricky with it.

That is true, but it is technically not mirror lock up. The mirrors are very well dampened on OM series cameras and there is really no need to have MLU.

 

[Aja B]

If pre-fire, mirror-up is acceptable via the self-timer, the Nikon FM3A would make for a more modern choice. There is no provision for illuminating the meter in case of low-light conditions. I regard the F3 quite highly but despise the most poorly designed feature of all the Nikons I own: the need to mash the oh-so tiny button in order to illuminate the meter. Strange that the engineers did so much right but on this one, crucial feature, absolutely blew it! I'll also suggest the FE2 if mirror-up via self-timer is manageable. As for fast lenses, you can't go wrong with any of the following: 28/2, 35/1.4, 50/1.2 or 50/1.4, 85/1.4 and 105/2.5.

 

[clayne]

On the flip side though a photographer should know that in such low light conditions where it's impossible to see the meter readout maybe they should be reverting to time-tested methodologies of reading the light or shooting at the lowest possible shutter speed they can manage. It's not like the meter will be incredibly accurate at such low light levels anyway.

This is the main reason I don't really care that the dumb little light rarely works right on the F3. But I do agree the button design is dumb.

 

[film_man]

You could get a lightmeter.

If you really want a AF camera (sorry, don't know much about manual 35mm SLRs), then anything from the Canon EOS 30 up has mirror pre-fire or MLU. AF and AE are obviously included and with a $5 adapter you can even use your M42 lenses.

 

[Bill Burk]

The OM-4, and I assume other OM-family uses mirror-up pre-fire when using self-timer.

This satisfies the requirement to eliminate mirror slap shake during tripod mounted exposure.

But it won't satisfy mirror lock-up requirement for some other purposes...

Like to take pictures almost as silently as a rangefinder.

Or to use lenses which need the mirror to be up to prevent physical damage.

 

[mopar_guy]

Olympus didn't make any lenses for the OM series cameras that require mirror lock-up to be mounted. I would like to see an example of a photo that was ruined because of mirror slap. If somebody has an example, please post it here.

 

[Rol_Lei Nut]

Olympus didn't make any lenses for the OM series cameras that require mirror lock-up to be mounted. I would like to see an example of a photo that was ruined because of mirror slap. If somebody has an example, please post it here.

Such an "example" wouldn't be cut and dry: in some situations and cases (not rock-solid tripod, long lenses, etc.), the shot might be less sharp than one taken with MLU....

 

[pstake]

Yashica FX-3 Super (or Super 2000).

 

[aoleg]

Yashica FX-3 Super (or Super 2000).

This is a fully mechanical, non-AE camera. All plastic construction, too. Pretty much as basic as it gets.

 

[fstop]

Olympus didn't make any lenses for the OM series cameras that require mirror lock-up to be mounted. I would like to see an example of a photo that was ruined because of mirror slap. If somebody has an example, please post it here.

if this were true we wouldn't use tripods,whether or not a camera body requires MLU to mount doesn't matter, mirror slap is known to affect images.Do some macro work and you will see...

 

[mopar_guy]

if this were true we wouldn't use tripods,whether or not a camera body requires MLU to mount doesn't matter, mirror slap is known to affect images.Do some macro work and you will see...

My earlier post didn't say that mirror slap is a myth...

I was just asking if somebody would post an image to show an example of the problem. Feel free. I hear crickets chirping.

 

[pstake]

This is a fully mechanical, non-AE camera. All plastic construction, too. Pretty much as basic as it gets.

It is a basic camera. The chassis is alloy or steel, the same chassis Contax used on its 139Q. It has not AE or shutter priority; it's not auto-focus; and its meter is primitive (but spot-on accurate). When you use the self-timer, it pre-locks the mirror, although MLU is otherwise unavailable IIRC.