I'm in Canada and the cost of shipping is what stops me from buying much from Adox. I just had a look and shipping for a single 120 film starts at 36.60 EUR. I know it costs what it costs, but it is a barrier to me buying your products over Ilford which is available locally.
The last order from Berlin took 6 weeks to arrive, so I need to plan ahead too; if I run out of fixer I don't necessarily want to delay a printing session for a month and a half.
However due to the unavailability of Ilford, Kodak, Tetenal and others…
This also makes us probably the last large brand where you can buy photo chemistry directly from the manufacturer with full support by the people who actually make what they sell
What happened to Ilford?
Their chemistry is/was manufactured by Tetenal
If there is a shortage, there should be some evidence. I just visited the Ilford website and checked availability of a dozen or so randomly chosen chemicals. All were in “in stock”.
I appreciate what Adox do in this industry, but is this more than cashing in on a rumour?
Probably.As Adox being owned by one of the largest suppliers of Europe, they will probably have some market knowledge.
Maybe.Maybe the big suppliers all have stocked up on Ilford and Tetenal, so they have it in stock now, but are not able to buy new stock from their supplier.
Maybe did Harman also stock up on chemicals.
And a gherkin too, by all means.I don't think Mirko/Adox has bad intensions by sharing this with us. Ofcourse his chimney needs to smoke too, and I grant him an extra slice of Schinken on his sandwich
We do not want any rumours. What exactly has the character of a rumour in my statement?Probably.
Maybe.
And a gherkin too, by all means.As said, I value their presence on the scene, but you know how twitchy this community is over rumours!
We do not want any rumours. What exactly has the character of a rumour in my statement?
...What has the character of fact?
All of it.
Of course one roll is not economic but if you bought 10 plus some other things it can easily be already cost effective.
Everything. If you doubt something from my original statement ask specifically. If you say you doubt everything I cannot take this serious and would not know how to answer. If you want to know more about Tetenal´s cease of production follow the links in this very thread given by others.I don’t know, that’s my point. What has the character of fact?
Everything. If you doubt something from my original statement ask specifically. If you say you doubt everything I cannot take this serious and would not know how to answer. If you want to know more about Tetenal´s cease of production follow the links in this very thread given by others.
The only thing I can come up with to clarify is that I never said Ilford chemicals will not be produced any longer. I simply said that a lot is currently unavailable because the largest manufacturer of photochemicals has gone out of business and thus we cannot catch up with all demand.
The reason I started this thread is to calm customers down and reassure them all will be good moving on.
But all of this is written there.
In the UK, this is not yet apparent. You tell us that it is coming, but we only have your word for that. Is there any further indication from those manufacturers?However due to the unavailability of Ilford, Kodak, Tetenal and others
I think you and I need to de-escalate our dialogue. I have no argument with you. I’m glad of your reassurance about Adox supplies, and have no doubt that you have inside-the-industry knowledge.
But I did specifically ask how we know that Ilford and Kodak are affected?
In the UK, this is not yet apparent. You tell us that it is coming, but we only have your word for that. Is there any further indication from those manufacturers?
Tetenal manufactured all chemicals for Ilford, Kodak and other brands at least for Europe. Their manufacturing was ceased in November. This means here in Europe everyone who has bought from Tetenal before is currently selling from stock until new manufacturing sources have been found. I am not telling anything less or anything more. This means I am also not specualating about future availability in certain markets. Here in Germany many things are out and because of this we face a sharp increase in demand of chemicals because we can (usually) still ship and if not remanufacture. But it is to much. We do not have enough manuafcturing power to replace Tetenal. So for us it is also important that other sources step in and supply e.g. to Ilford again. Kodak photochemicals are a more difficult story if you chip in the most recent news about Sino Promise. This should be dealt with in a different thread and in a different forum.
So is it the demise of Norderstedter Chemiewerke (rather than Tetenal as the dependent company) that has led to all this? I’m sure the dependency of Ilford and Kodak too on this supply chain will be a surprise to many here. As consumers we just go by the label on the bottle.
Does/could Adox have the production capacity to absorb their former role?
That's not true apparently. Please have a look at https://dupli.co.uk/ilford-ilfosol-3-500ml or many other Ilford chemistry, see for yourself.
Dupli is the new Tetenal distributor for the UK.
It's padadoxical that in the UK Ilford chemistry begins to be unavailable...
Ilford Photo (www.ilfordphoto.com) sells chemistry directly?
Where?
If you read my above post you can see that we as ADOX cannot replace them. But we can assure the supply of our own branded chemicals and this is the purpose of this thread.
Ilford Photo (www.ilfordphoto.com) sells chemistry directly?
Where?
From its own website called Ilfordphoto.com It has been doing this for a good number of years now
pentxuser
Harman is the UK wholesale distributor for its own Ilford branded products.
In other parts of the world, there are other wholesale distributors.
Harman doesn't retail direct.
Harman is the UK wholesale distributor for its own Ilford branded products.
In other parts of the world, there are other wholesale distributors.
Harman doesn't retail direct.
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