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I have a Fujica GW690 6x9 Professional.
I assumed that the frame size would be 6x9 cm, but it is much narrower: 54.5 x 80 mm instead.
Do I have a GW690 branded camera with GW680 innards?
(My Voigtlaender Bessa II, on the other hand, is much closer to 9cm, at 88mm wide. It seems more worthy of the Texas Leica moniker than the Fujica?)
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It is perhaps easier to think of medium format frame sizes in English units:
2-1/4" x 1-3/4", 2-1/4" x 2-1/4" square, 2-1/4" x 2-3/4", 2-1/4" x 3-1/4".
These convert to metric units:
57x44mm, 57x57mm, 57x70mm, 57x83mm.
It's not exact because many cameras (especially newer ones IMO) will have slightly smaller actual frame sizes. For example, a lot of 2-1/4" square cameras are actually about 56x56mm, 6x7 cameras are about 56x68mm, 6x9 cameras about 56x82mm. But they are usually closer to the quarter inch sizes than to "6x4.5, 6x5, 6x7, 6x9", which are basically convenience names.
It is perhaps easier to think of medium format frame sizes in English units:
2-1/4" x 1-3/4", 2-1/4" x 2-1/4" square, 2-1/4" x 2-3/4", 2-1/4" x 3-1/4".
These convert to metric units:
57x44mm, 57x57mm, 57x70mm, 57x83mm.
It's not exact because many cameras (especially newer ones IMO) will have slightly smaller actual frame sizes. For example, a lot of 2-1/4" square cameras are actually about 56x56mm, 6x7 cameras are about 56x68mm, 6x9 cameras about 56x82mm. But they are usually closer to the quarter inch sizes than to "6x4.5, 6x5, 6x7, 6x9", which are basically convenience names.
Thanks.
This makes me wonder what the frame spacing is on Kodak’s backing paper on the film, with the printed numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8.
Probably 90mm?
Thanks.
This makes me wonder what the frame spacing is on Kodak’s backing paper on the film, with the printed numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8.
Probably 90mm?
Yeah, I understand, the frame spacing on my GW690 will depend on the winding system. I believe simpler advance systems will not be able to adjust for start-of-roll vs end-of-roll discrepancies in spool diameter. My Koni Omegaflex has a fancy system that adapts the wind to the shot number, making the frame spacing equidistant.The frame spacing on the backing paper is standardized - by the film manufacturer, and ISO standards.
The film has some room at either end, but the film advance systems - and the camera's film transport system - are generally but not always matched to the standard.
Heh.. yeah. What really got me is the fact that Fujica has both a "6x8 professional" and "6x9 professional" labeled camera.The OP's confusion is understandable. Taking poor approximations as real dimensions is an unfortunate consequence of widespread ignorance. As for paranoia, there's a lot of it going around these days.
I guess camera manufacturers are not that much different from lumber yards that sell "2x4 lumber" that is distinctly not 2x4 inch. Not by a long shot
Yeah, I understand, the frame spacing on my GW690 will depend on the winding system. I believe simpler advance systems will not be able to adjust for start-of-roll vs end-of-roll discrepancies in spool diameter. My Koni Omegaflex has a fancy system that adapts the wind to the shot number, making the frame spacing equidistant.
To sum up, the metric nominal frame sizes 6x6, 6x9 and 6x12 are poor metric approximations to 2.25" x 2.25", 2.25" x 2.75", 2.25" x 3.25" and 2.25" x 4.50". The first three sizes were set by Kodak, as has been mentioned above.
Nominal 6x8 is not based on anything Kodak did.
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