Acros II - Adorama Promo Comments

[MattKing]

W 5300 HAROLD GATTY DR
SALT LAKE CITY, UT, US

Believe it or not, that is the distribution centre for Regis Salons!

 

[ColdEye]

My two separate orders are from New Jersey.

 

[dourbalistar]

Received shipping notice from Adorama regarding my last 20-120 rolls, and the film is shipping from:

ADORAMA
W 5300 HAROLD GATTY DR
SALT LAKE CITY, UT, US

In all the years (decades) I have purchased from Adorama, I have never received anything shipped outside of NY or NJ including the other two recent orders of Acros II. Anybody else getting Adorama shipments from Utah?

My last order came from Utah as well. I thought it was a bit odd as well, but I was more interested in the contents of the package than the return address.

 

[spark]

Mine was from Utah as well. I’m on the west coast so that might be part of it. Previous Adorama orders always came from the NYC area

 

[Christiaan Phleger]

I recall that way back in the day Freestyle would get those huge end of run short date dumps from Fuji. I fondly remember the $18.95 100ft rolls of Fuji Neopan that I bought by the case of 12 for doing weddings. good times.

 

[dourbalistar]

Mine was from Utah as well. I’m on the west coast so that might be part of it. Previous Adorama orders always came from the NYC area

I'm also in the SF Bay Area, so that might well be the reason.

I recall that way back in the day Freestyle would get those huge end of run short date dumps from Fuji. I fondly remember the $18.95 100ft rolls of Fuji Neopan that I bought by the case of 12 for doing weddings. good times.

A few years ago, someone here on Photrio shared a special deal from Freestyle on short-dated 100-foot bulk rolls of Fujifilm Superia 400. $25/each, or $20/each if you bought 5. I'd never seen bulk C-41 before that, or since. Oddly enough, the webpage for the deal still exists.

 

[Duceman]

I'd never seen bulk C-41 before that, or since.

I've searched far and wide, and have not found any myself. Wonder why it's not available?

 

[MattKing]

I've searched far and wide, and have not found any myself. Wonder why it's not available?

Most likely because amateur labs used to hate bulk loaded cassettes - particularly if there was a risk that they contained motion picture film.

 

[Duceman]

Most likely because amateur labs used to hate bulk loaded cassettes - particularly if there was a risk that they contained motion picture film.

Why would a film Mfg care what the labs like (or don't like)?

 

[dourbalistar]

Most likely because amateur labs used to hate bulk loaded cassettes - particularly if there was a risk that they contained motion picture film.

Ironically, you can buy bulk ECN-2 motion picture film directly from Kodak, complete with the mini-lab contaminating Remjet layer!

 

[MattKing]

Why would a film Mfg care what the labs like (or don't like)?

Because back in the day, Kodak made a significant part of their profits supplying labs - perhaps as much as they did selling film, and because almost all colour negative film was processed by labs, not by users.
Almost all users of still film considered the labs to be an integral part of their photography.
And for the big labs, one roll of remjet backed film mixed in with regular C-22 or C-41 film could cost them large amounts of money.

 

[MattKing]

Ironically, you can buy bulk ECN-2 motion picture film directly from Kodak, complete with the mini-lab contaminating Remjet layer!

Yes you can, but generally only in lengths suitable for movie loads, not still film bulk loaders. And of course that film lacks frame numbers.
Because of low volumes and a lack of efficient mechanization, the still film products that Eastman Kodak makes in bulk load form cost them, on a per unit basis, an impractically large amount to make.
The need for custom frame numbering alone bumps the price up considerably, due to the small volumes.

 

[lantau]

Yes you can, but generally only in lengths suitable for movie loads, not still film bulk loaders. And of course that film lacks frame numbers.
Because of low volumes and a lack of efficient mechanization, the still film products that Eastman Kodak makes in bulk load form cost them, on a per unit basis, an impractically large amount to make.
The need for custom frame numbering alone bumps the price up considerably, due to the small volumes.

Isn't there a time code on the rebate? Of course as a bar code, but still...

 

[Deleted member 88956]

The need for custom frame numbering alone bumps the price up considerably, due to the small volumes.

This sounds like looking for excuse not to support still capture. I personally don't need a factual proof what it costs to frame up a length of film. Kodak used to do it and suddenly that technology is no longer in their hands?

In fact, if still shooters were of any interest to Kodak, why not skip BSing about the frame numbering cost and just offer standard bulk loader lengths and take it to the market? I look at Kodak as a sore loser as far I can see and there is no interest within their executive ranks to put in any effort to change that perception. They have no interest nor any desire at slightest level, in reaching out to still photography market. If there were, we would not be reading these kind of stories.

 

[John Wiegerink]

This sounds like looking for excuse not to support still capture. I personally don't need a factual proof what it costs to frame up a length of film. Kodak used to do it and suddenly that technology is no longer in their hands?

In fact, if still shooters were of any interest to Kodak, why not skip BSing about the frame numbering cost and just offer standard bulk loader lengths and take it to the market? I look at Kodak as a sore loser as far I can see and there is no interest within their executive ranks to put in any effort to change that perception. They have no interest nor any desire at slightest level, in reaching out to still photography market. If there were, we would not be reading these kind of stories.

Nowadays, it's all about counting beans. They don't count enough beans to make soup they starve. It's a shame, but that's life. As for bulk 35mm goes, numbering really means nothing to me. All I need is a film code telling me what the film is/was that I shot. Also, companies don't seem to want to gamble anymore as to whether or not they can create a market for a product. They have to know 100% for sure there's a market or they won't budge. I don't blame them I guess. The only chance we have of seeing film/paper products we used to love and now have lost is for the Chinese to see the way we do. They seem welling and eventually able to gamble a little. We still shouldn't complain since we can still find film and paper. The paper end is where the trouble really lies since many folks now use film and then digitally print. JohnW

 

[Deleted member 88956]

Nowadays, it's all about counting beans. They don't count enough beans to make soup they starve. It's a shame, but that's life. As for bulk 35mm goes, numbering really means nothing to me. All I need is a film code telling me what the film is/was that I shot. Also, companies don't seem to want to gamble anymore as to whether or not they can create a market for a product. They have to know 100% for sure there's a market or they won't budge. I don't blame them I guess. The only chance we have of seeing film/paper products we used to love and now have lost is for the Chinese to see the way we do. They seem welling and eventually able to gamble a little. We still shouldn't complain since we can still find film and paper. The paper end is where the trouble really lies since many folks now use film and then digitally print. JohnW

We sort of agree, but I don't agree with "we should not complain". Kodak decided to price itself out of the market, so did Fuji. And I still read about some who claim "even if a roll costs 25$ I'll still buy it". This only supports price increase. Beaners are only looking for how far they can take it.

If we all had enough guts to stop buying film above certain price point, we would give those who can make it less expensive more demand (support) while knocking down those who figured they are too good no matter the price.

As for Chinese ... my reply would have to get political, so I'll stop now.

 

[brbo]

If we all had enough guts to stop buying film above certain price point, we would give those who can make it less expensive more demand (support) while knocking down those who figured they are too good no matter the price.

To whom did you "give you demand" for C-41/E-6 film since you stopped buying Fuji and Kodak? How do you like those less expensive alternatives?

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Received my final 20-120 rolls from Adorama with a Christmas Gift! The expiration is 03/2023 ... what a nice gift with a 50% off price!!
Thank you Adorama; you have had my business for decades before this sale and you will continue to long after.

Also received five rolls of 135-36 that has an expiration date of 11/2021. Each film format came in different mailings, days apart and from different shipping locations. All received in excellent shape. Thank you to everyone that posted positive comments in this thread about their purchases and shipments. It was with your helpful comments that I was able to once again fill my freezer with 120 Acros. I am down to 2 boxes of Acros 4x5 and hope Fujifilm may decide to manufacture Acros II 4x5 some day. We can pray!

Happy Holidays!

I have had my fingers crossed that they bring it back in 4x5! I only have a few sheets left....