Acros 100 in peril?

[David Brown]

I load up on films that have been announced to be discontinued so that I can keep them from the hoarders.

Seriously?

 

[Lachlan Young]

It's very striking to me that the loudest defence of Acros (and K-14 Kodachrome for that matter) seems not based on any specific aesthetic quality, but rather on very narrow obsessions that have sprouted from single points in the tech specs/ perceptions of the tech specs. When you read what some of Acros' proponents write (not specifically on Photrio), you'd think that night or long exposure work was almost impossible before it came along...

Like Neopan 400 I feel Acros suffers from being a bit 'generic', seeking to take the middle ground between Kodak's & Ilford's tonalities/ colour sensitivities. It's OK, but not spectacular in the way I find Delta 100 to be.

 

[Sirius Glass]

It's very striking to me that the loudest defence of Acros (and K-14 Kodachrome for that matter) seems not based on any specific aesthetic quality, but rather on very narrow obsessions that have sprouted from single points in the tech specs/ perceptions of the tech specs. When you read what some of Acros' proponents write (not specifically on Photrio), you'd think that night or long exposure work was almost impossible before it came along...

Like Neopan 400 I feel Acros suffers from being a bit 'generic', seeking to take the middle ground between Kodak's & Ilford's tonalities/ colour sensitivities. It's OK, but not spectacular in the way I find Delta 100 to be.

+1

 

[RattyMouse]

It's very striking to me that the loudest defence of Acros (and K-14 Kodachrome for that matter) seems not based on any specific aesthetic quality, but rather on very narrow obsessions that have sprouted from single points in the tech specs/ perceptions of the tech specs. When you read what some of Acros' proponents write (not specifically on Photrio), you'd think that night or long exposure work was almost impossible before it came along...

Like Neopan 400 I feel Acros suffers from being a bit 'generic', seeking to take the middle ground between Kodak's & Ilford's tonalities/ colour sensitivities. It's OK, but not spectacular in the way I find Delta 100 to be.

Acros in 120 has NEVER had a paper issue. Try making that claim with Kodak film. I shoot Acros film almost exclusively because it is has bullet proof quality.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I load up on films that have been announced to be discontinued so that I can keep them from the hoarders.\

Seriously?

Siriusly! Hoarders buy up all the remaining stock and keep the film from the rest of us! We must buy up as much of the discontinued film before the hoarders do.

 

[mshchem]

I'm on the fence about stocking up. There are other B&W films made by companies that are passionate about film, why not give my money to them?

Most paper cannot resolve the kind of detail that acros is capable of.

The only thing really worth stocking is fujichrome.

YEAH, to hell with FUJI let them choke on their damn Acros. Buy from Ilford, they are actually DOING something. Fuji probably needs the space for more Instax, good for them . Reward the people that are doing something to support Analog.

 

[RattyMouse]

YEAH, to hell with FUJI let them choke on their damn Acros. Buy from Ilford, they are actually DOING something. Fuji probably needs the space for more Instax, good for them . Reward the people that are doing something to support Analog.

I'll buy from Ilford when I cannot get Acros anymore.

 

[1kgcoffee]

The biggest issue no one is talking about is the E-6 lineup, particularly Velvia. Having had sheets discontinued around the same time, does anyone else find it likely that their E-6 line is soon to follow? This is something truly irreplaceable.

The cynic in me finds it a near certainty SOON. On the other hand it's possible they're paring down their lineup to make the color options high enough margin, or maybe they have figured out a way to integrate their color film manufacturing with instax production.

 

[RattyMouse]

The biggest issue no one is talking about is the E-6 lineup, particularly Velvia. Having had sheets discontinued around the same time, does anyone else find it likely that their E-6 line is soon to follow? This is something truly irreplaceable.

The cynic in me finds it a near certainty SOON. On the other hand it's possible they're paring down their lineup to make the color options high enough margin, or maybe they have figured out a way to integrate their color film manufacturing with instax production.

The thread's title is ACROS. Why would we be talking about E6 in an Acros thread?

Regardless, Fujifilm is exiting the film market (INSTAX excepted). Buy your E6 now before it is too late.

 

[mshchem]

How many years past expiration date will frozen Acros keep?

I have TMY 4x5 that went expry. in 2001, that I bought in 2003, always kept in a fridge, works perfect. TMY not TMY-2 and Acros is 100 not 400 speed. I would say in a freezer it would last for 30 years.

 

[mshchem]

Siriusly! Hoarders buy up all the remaining stock and keep the film from the rest of us! We must buy up as much of the discontinued film before the hoarders do.

Uh.... Doesn't that well, uh, make you a hoarder This sounds a bit like Dr. Strangelove. We must not allow an Acros Gap!

 

[Sirius Glass]

Uh.... Doesn't that well, uh, make you a hoarder This sounds a bit like Dr. Strangelove. We must not allow an Acros Gap!

You just do not understand. You are suffering from a Credibility Gap. Get with the program and buy up the disappearing emulsions.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

The biggest issue no one is talking about is the E-6 lineup, particularly Velvia. Having had sheets discontinued around the same time, does anyone else find it likely that their E-6 line is soon to follow? This is something truly irreplaceable...

We've covered velveeta elsewhere:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threa...-in-todays-market.158186/page-10#post-2060945​

The only E-6 films Fuji made discontinuation of which dealt a great blow to aesthetics were Fujichrome 50 and Astia. All the rest simply pandered to those who suffer a crayon-saturated primary color fixation. IMHO.

Relax, the new Ektachrome will step in and provide pleasing slides. For those few remaining real customers who want them. In black and white long-exposure work, TMY-2 offers an excellent alternative to Acros. Since the medium's beginning, manufacturers have continuously discontinued beloved materials, forcing photographers to work at learning how alternative products could serve their visions. Mush!

 

[munz6869]

I love Acros, and have been using it in 35/120/4x5' for about 8 years now. It's beautiful and reliable. When it goes (like formerly beloved APX100, and Plus-X), I shall learn to love something else (probably FP4+)...

Marc!

 

[RattyMouse]

I officially have my wife's approval to buy 500 rolls of 120 size Acros and 200 rolls of 135. That's going to be by far THE largest film order I've ever made.

I also have approval to buy a freezer. Would 9 cubic feet be large enough? I need advice from the film hoarders on what size freezer to buy.

I am going to grab as much Acros as I can.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I officially have my wife's approval to buy 500 rolls of 120 size Acros and 200 rolls of 135. That's going to be by far THE largest film order I've ever made.

I also have approval to buy a freezer. Would 9 cubic feet be large enough? I need advice from the film hoarders on what size freezer to buy.

I am going to grab as much Acros as I can.

I would not know what advice film hoarders would give. I buy up many rolls of discontinued films before the hoarders do. I keep unopened [sealed] film in the freezer. Once the package is opened [film can for 135, foil wrapper for 120, plastic bag in the box for sheet film] I store that film in sealed Zip-Lock bags in the refrigerator. I live in a dry climate, so I am not concerned with moisture build up in the plastic bags.

You will have to find a film hoarder though to ask your questions.

 

[cmacd123]

I officially have my wife's approval to buy 500 rolls of 120 size Acros and 200 rolls of 135. That's going to be by far THE largest film order I've ever made.

I also have approval to buy a freezer. Would 9 cubic feet be large enough? I need advice from the film hoarders on what size freezer to buy.

I am going to grab as much Acros as I can.

measure the volume of one box from your current stock and multiply by the number of boxes you are ordering - and add about 1/3 to make up for the packges being always the wrong shape to stack neatly. Note that since you want to use "feet" there are a couple of conversions needed.

 

[Ces1um]

I'm sure everyone here sees the writing on the wall for all of fuji's film products (excluding instax). I personally think my purchasing dollars will be spent elsewhere from this point on. I might as well get to like other brands.

 

[redrockcoulee]

I officially have my wife's approval to buy 500 rolls of 120 size Acros and 200 rolls of 135. That's going to be by far THE largest film order I've ever made.

I also have approval to buy a freezer. Would 9 cubic feet be large enough? I need advice from the film hoarders on what size freezer to buy.

I am going to grab as much Acros as I can.

I have a tub in my upright freezer that holds just over 100 rolls of 120. It looks like I could maybe just fit 5 of those tubs in our 9 cu ft chest freezer. So in my estimate you can get all or almost all of 500 rolls in that size freezer. Our freezers hold mostly meat and other foods.

We have a tenent moving out the end of May and there is a small freezer in that house I think I might move into our basement for film and papers giving more room for food. I already had 75 rolls for our fall trip to Scotland and Iceland and ordered 100 rolls to replace that this morning. Just might order another 100 rolls in June and that should do me for life, or a cou0les more photo trips.

 

[aleckurgan]

Give your money to someone producing the next best alternative, rather than throwing more money to the company that has just abandoned you. That's what I'd be doing, anyway.

I'm sure everyone here sees the writing on the wall for all of fuji's film products (excluding instax). I personally think my purchasing dollars will be spent elsewhere from this point on. I might as well get to like other brands.

As I said exactly two years ago in the Fuji FP100 discontinuation thread: I think it's time to boycott Fujifilm altogether. Let's help them kill their film business quickly, so they won't disappoint and upset us every year. Better a painful ending, than an endless pain.

 

[Ces1um]

As I said exactly two years ago in the Fuji FP100 discontinuation thread: I think it's time to boycott Fujifilm altogether. Let's help them kill their film business quickly, so they won't disappoint and upset us every year. Better a painful ending, than an endless pain.

I'm thinking that they're now poaching sales from more committed film companies, hurting them in the process. Now I love fuji's film- their superia line was great. I just need to find a film that has a cool colour temperature like superia did and I'm all set.

 

[mooseontheloose]

Well, I just ordered 150 rolls of 120 and 30 rolls of 35mm - it's all I can afford right now. Hopefully I can keep buying more stock after every pay period, until I can order no more. In the meantime, I'll be moving over to another 100 speed film, and save the Acros mostly for what it does it best.

 

[Hawkeye]

All that blather about Fujifilm's commitment to film was just that, blather.

I used a lot of Fujifilm products, as well as many Kodak products, that are long gone. With Fuji continuing to cut products and Kodak discontinuing B&W paper and Plus X, I decided to commit totally to a company who is committed to traditional B&W photography. I did not feel that stocking up on products from companies that were backing away from traditional photography was the right thing to do. I thought it was better to support a company who is attempting to support me. Ilford has been getting all of my film, paper and chemical business for years now.

 

[removedacct1]

I did not feel that stocking up on products from companies that were backing away from traditional photography was the right thing to do. I thought it was better to support a company who is attempting to support me. Ilford has been getting all of my film, paper and chemical business for years now.

My thoughts exactly. I have some Acros in storage I bought last summer, and that's the end of it for me. Ilford and Bergger will get my business from here on in.

 

[faberryman]

I always used to shoot Kodak black and white films, but when I came back to photography in 2012 after a long hiatus, in view of Kodak's bankruptcy and reduced offerings and support for photography, I shifted to Ilford exclusively for film and chemicals. I've not been disappointed.