You strike me as kind of a benign soft troll, but I'll bite.
For history of course! Personal, local, national and global. Short term, long term and for the very long term.
All worthy causes, just plain fun and very gratifying.
You strike me as kind of a benign soft troll, but I'll bite.And then you have to ask yourself whether any of these images are even worth saving. And for whom. And why.
You might have a better chance of being discovered if you made prints and left them in a storage unit. I'm not sure digital images stored on a hard drive at a server farm gives you the best chance for posthumous fame@faberryman Why? To be discovered after your death, of course!
And then you have to ask yourself whether any of the images are even worth saving. And for whom. And why.
On a Kindle?
When capitalism gives 90+ percent of wealth to 10% of population and creates an illusion that you need newest iphone each year, this might seem so real. With better distribution of wealth and saner attitude towards expiry date - planet has enough resources. It's we who are lacking.The planet is overheating and, despite "carrying capacity" misinformation, cannot sustain even the current population.
On scanning:
Sooo - if I have 400€, want my pics scanned and occasionally printed from these scans to max A3-A2, and am not pixel peeping failed scientist - what's my best current option out there in reality?
Because it's all fun and game's, charts and pixels in otherwise uninteresting photos, but most of us just want a tool for a job, no?
On scanning:
Sooo - if I have 400€, want my pics scanned and occasionally printed from these scans to max A3-A2, and am not pixel peeping failed scientist
Maybe because you are misreading me and generalizing? I haven't demonstrated such an attitude and behavior, and to elaborate - simplicity in each and every field would hurt precisely nobody. Science communication is just about that - explaining mind boggling concepts to idiots in a manner we, the idiots, understand and can base our choices on this understanding.I find this attitude puzzling.
A2-A3 from what? 135? 120?....
Sooo - if I have 400€, want my pics scanned and occasionally printed from these scans to max A3-A2, and am not pixel peeping failed scientist - what's my best current option out there in reality?....
Because we are extremists. :-D The Anti-Flatbed-Taliban vs. the DSLR-Scan-Sucks-Jehovas :-D....
All scanning threads quickly devolve in pile of goo, and nothing becomes clearer for the average user that wants just a decent scanner, not supercar.....?
On scanning:
Sooo - if I have 400€, want my pics scanned and occasionally printed from these scans to max A3-A2, and am not pixel peeping failed scientist - what's my best current option out there in reality?
Because it's all fun and game's, charts and pixels in otherwise uninteresting photos, but most of us just want a tool for a job, no?
Frank: That's why I suggest framing your best and giving them as gifts. Start gaining fame while you alive. Plus the thanks you'll get from the people you gave them to when you visit them will be appreciated by all while you're alive.You might have a better chance of being discovered if you made prints and left them in a storage unit. I'm not sure digital images stored on a hard drive at a server farm gives you the best chance for posthumous fame
I know how you feel. Whenever we get back from vacation, I spend weeks often months putting together a video slide show with music, credits, titles, annotations, etc. I show it on my 75" UHD TV. It takes my wife weeks before she agrees to sit down and watch it and then she tells me not to show it to guests when they visit. But I keep watching and enjoying it. I use to make DVD's of them and send it to my daughter to watch. Ego.I don't ask those questions.
It's more enjoyable to pretend what I'm doing is important. I have a book full of prints I literally cannot get anyone to look at, like I stick it in front of their faces, turned to a favorite image, they'll look for a second then be off on some other tangent and not care to look at a second shot.
But... I still print, I still shove things in the book, and when I give a print to someone it's gallery matted as though anyone will give a crap if it still looks nice in 20 years. Because that's what I find fun to do.
You should read Old Man and the Sea sometime.
If your main aim, as an amateur, with shooting film is putting it online, I'd seriously question whether you really should shoot film at all.Because we are extremists. :-D The Anti-Flatbed-Taliban vs. the DSLR-Scan-Sucks-Jehovas :-D
As with everything, you can take two approaches:
- I want 99% "quality". Getting from 90% to 99% requires a lot of effort. Not only in scanning, in everything.
- Pareto principle: get 80% of the results with 20% of the effort
First questions:
- What do you want to scan
- What for? (Print web,....)
Because we are extremists. :-D The Anti-Flatbed-Taliban vs. the DSLR-Scan-Sucks-Jehovas :-D
I used an Epson V600 for ten years. I recently upgraded to an Epson V850 because I needed the larger scanning format because I bought a 4x5 large format camera. I scan using the software that came with the scanner - Epsonscan. I try to keep it simple. I rarely print and use it to present pictures here and store my shoots on Flickr for others to see. Check my Flickr page where you can see 35mm, 6x7 and 4x5 scans in both color and BW. I think you'll find my work pretty acceptable. If I demand the best scan for a huge print, I'll send it out to a pro scanner.I know little about scanning (have operated only 2, zero education on this, that's why I'm here), am reading this thread with a limited knowledge, experience, budget and a need for tool that does decent job.
All scanning threads quickly devolve in pile of goo, and nothing becomes clearer for the average user that wants just a decent scanner, not supercar. Everyone seems to force supercars on everyone, ignoring their needs - regardless of platform the discussion takes place. This is very telling on itself.
That's why I'm setting some filters in my previous comment: am not looking for the best, just decent - something that won't make your eyes bleed or do film massive injustice, and could be shared online without shaming myself. I guess OP asks the same.
When I'll need THE BEST or fine print to sell, I'll seek a pro lab with a pro printer, and there's a massive difference in use scenarios. Average Joe doesn't need a supercar, right?
Amen.I used an Epson V600 for ten years. I recently upgraded to an Epson V850 because I needed the larger scanning format because I bought a 4x5 large format camera. I scan using the software that came with the scanner - Epsonscan. I try to keep it simple. I rarely print and use it to present pictures here and store my shoots on Flickr for others to see. Check my Flickr page where you can see 35mm, 6x7 and 4x5 scans in both color and BW. I think you'll find my work pretty acceptable. If I demand the best scan for a huge print, I'll send it out to a pro scanner.
Keep it simple.
There is simple, simple. As in using a knife as a screwdriver, or walking instead of getting a bike.I used an Epson V600 for ten years. I recently upgraded to an Epson V850 because I needed the larger scanning format because I bought a 4x5 large format camera. I scan using the software that came with the scanner - Epsonscan. I try to keep it simple. I rarely print and use it to present pictures here and store my shoots on Flickr for others to see. Check my Flickr page where you can see 35mm, 6x7 and 4x5 scans in both color and BW. I think you'll find my work pretty acceptable. If I demand the best scan for a huge print, I'll send it out to a pro scanner.
Keep it simple.
If somebody has fun setting up online-galleries "shot on film", why not? It's absurd to question the personal motives somebody has to do something as a hobby.If your main aim, as an amateur, with shooting film is putting it online, I'd seriously question whether you really should shoot film at all.....
In almost every hobby, I am mediocre. Neither on the cycle I will reach world-class times, playing an instrument I hit a wrong note, I can't surf the biggest waves and I am a passable skier. Photography is a hobby. I used to do it for money, but since I quit, I no longer have any desire to pursue every last bit of "perfection". Because I can't devote more than a few hours a week to it.....Who'd ever aim for and settle to be mediocre? Even if the photography is only for personal or interfamily enjoyment.
First questions:
- What do you want to scan
- What for? (Print web,....)
"Elitist" is a term bandied around here a lot. My feel is that it's just a blanket term to cover over it's own mirror version. The reverse snop. The egalitarian facist obsessive. Which is interesting when you look at other congruent tendencies. It's just a cover for fear and conformity.If somebody has fun setting up online-galleries "shot on film", why not? It's absurd to question the personal motives somebody has to do something as a hobby.
In almost every hobby, I am mediocre. Neither on the cycle I will reach world-class times, playing an instrument I hit a wrong note, I can't surf the biggest waves and I am a passable skier. Photography is a hobby. I used to do it for money, but since I quit, I no longer have any desire to pursue every last bit of "perfection". Because I can't devote more than a few hours a week to it.
Personally, I think this elitist view of photography dissuades many people. Only top-notch gear, top-notch scanners, etc. seem to be valid for some. This weekend I shot a 4x5. And it was great! even if two corners are dark, because I shifted too much, so it's "mediocre".
Yesterday I scanned some BW-135ies with my V850 and I was surprised (with some twaeking) how good a A4 print was.35mm slides, mostly BW, some color. .....
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