I think you’re on the right track.
Check out Paul Wainwright’s “Use Your Eyes” essay. He suggests that you can get a very good understanding of your films characteristics by ditching the densitometer and printing step wedges.
You need to be shooting 4x5 for that method to work. OP shoots 35mm. And you still need a meter.
I thought he meant internal camera meter, as opposed to spot meter. You can get a personal EI that way, for average scenes anyway. Sunny 16 is probably to inconsistent to be of any good though. Unless you have changeable backs, it's real hard to do full zone system.
I’ve done it this way with 120 for a class and I found it to be a complete waste of time and resources
I have no idea why you are calling this the zone system, it has nothing to with the zone system. The ZS is about visualization, without the core concept of visualization, the ability to visualize a scene in black and white determine the shadows and highlight, expose for the shadow and develop for the highlights. In the 60s I took the 10 day workshop with Minor White, his method was slightly different from AA, but with both spent the first couple of days learning to see using the 10 zones of black and and white as developed by AA and Fred Archer. I have no gripes with your system if it gets you the results you want, but it has nothing to do with the ZS, lazy persons or not.
There's no "EZ" anything in film photography.
Pretty much my point. The shortcut OP wants to take will actually complicate his life. Reason is OP wants to take a shortcut where none exists. There's no "EZ" anything in film photography.
I have no idea why you are calling this the zone system, it has nothing to with the zone system. The ZS is about visualization, without the core concept of visualization, the ability to visualize a scene in black and white determine the shadows and highlight, expose for the shadow and develop for the highlights. In the 60s I took the 10 day workshop with Minor White, his method was slightly different from AA, but with both spent the first couple of days learning to see using the 10 zones of black and and white as developed by AA and Fred Archer. I have no gripes with your system if it gets you the results you want, but it has nothing to do with the ZS, lazy persons or not.
How about you keep the light meter and ditch the EZ Zone System and all the testing? I honestly don't understand what you're trying to get at. What's the point in trying to find your film's ISO if you're not going to use a light meter?
If you're saying that every frame of the same film developed in the same developer will always need the same time under the enlarger, you're in for a surprise.
I thought he meant internal camera meter, as opposed to spot meter.
I have no idea why you are calling this the zone system, it has nothing to with the zone system.
Yes. Thank you. That's what I meant.
The system mentioned is, of course, an attempt to make personal refinements to one's results. It would be of no value without employing a meter as well. And the benefits to be gained from it would likely only be enjoyed by an experienced user.
I just wanted to use my camera's built-in light meter and make nice prints.
Well do you know what your camera's meter is actually measuring? Historically there were averaging meters, center-weighted meters, spot meters, matrix metering. Do you know which system your camera features?I just wanted to use my camera's built-in light meter and make nice prints.
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