A Christmas Cookie from Santa

[Sirius Glass]

Hi PE,
I am glad that your video is coming out. But the Book should come befor the video, even if you need to sit on the disk for awhile. Call me an old fashioned old fert. But I believe that the written word contains an intrinsic value that images,still or moving, detract from. Reading requires an effort , and therefor a participation, from the reader that is absecent in movies. If the movie replaces the book, and I mean that in general, not just your movie and your book, it contributes to the continuous dumbing down of society.

Hot flash! What about releasing the book with the disk?

 

[wildbillbugman]

Sirius,
No, release the disk with the book!

 

[Sirius Glass]

Even better release the two in a package that includes Ron living with you for two weeks of one on one in home training!

 

[Photo Engineer]

Even better release the two in a package that includes Ron living with you for two weeks of one on one in home training!

This is available (now that I have my insurance fixed up and now that I have incorporated), but it is a bit pricey!

Only, you come here!

PE

 

[Sirius Glass]

This is available (now that I have my insurance fixed up and now that I have incorporated), but it is a bit pricey!

Only, you come here!

PE

I know, it was an oblique shameless plug for you.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Thank you.

PE

 

[lxdude]

I know, it was an oblique shameless plug

Which is better by far than an oblique shameless pug. A woman I worked with had one. The sneaky little bug-eyed screw-tailed mutt thought the world was his urinal!

Oh, sorry.

Just a "pet" peeve.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Y'know, the worst part about this is that I know what I did to deserve this! It all seems to have started when I bought a Mustang!



PE

 

[lxdude]

 

[Sirius Glass]

Always take care of your pet peeve. If you do not then PETA will come after you for neglecting a pet.

You know about PETA don't you? People Eating Tasty Animals

But still better than a PITA or a stick in the eye.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Y'know, the worst part about this is that I know what I did to deserve this! It all seems to have started when I bought a Mustang!



PE

One wonders what would have happed if you had bought a GTS Dodge Dart with the 340 cubic inch engine! :w00t:

 

[lxdude]

Always take care of your pet peeve. If you do not then PETA will come after you for neglecting a pet.

That's the thing about peeves. People just keep petting them and petting them and they never go away!

 

[wildbillbugman]

My Head Accepts "It"

I will hold up the DVD then. On your head be it!

Oh, and you are an old Fert, whatever that is! (you asked for it!)

PE[/QUOTE]

I can't do anything about being an Old Fert. But I think that"One word can be worth a thousand Pictures." By using an e instead of an a, I was trying to be "nice". A:devil:gainst my nature.::devil:

 

[Photo Engineer]

Bill;

I've thought about this for a day or so since you suggested that the book be released first. I see your reasoning but I would like to bring to your attention the fact that you have seen all parts of my course, and this may be influencing your POV. For those who are wavering about homemade emulsions, perhaps the disk will be valuable to them, as much so as the book.

PE

 

[wildbillbugman]

Yes Ron,
I will admit that you have a good argument there. But I will say that anyone who depends entirely on the DVD and dose not read the book, would be doing himself a disservice. Personaly, I would rather visualize from a well written book than see "the real thing". But then, I was a poet 30 years befor I picked up a camera.
Bill

 

[michaelbsc]

This is available (now that I have my insurance fixed up and now that I have incorporated), but it is a bit pricey!

Only, you come here!

PE

How pricy? It might be worth it. You'd be shocked at how much I could sponge up with two weeks one-on-one.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Please contact me for details.

PE

 

[Kirk Keyes]

Yes Ron,
I will admit that you have a good argument there. But I will say that anyone who depends entirely on the DVD and dose not read the book, would be doing himself a disservice. Personaly, I would rather visualize from a well written book than see "the real thing". But then, I was a poet 30 years befor I picked up a camera.
Bill

I agree with Bill - the video is like icing on the cake, with the book being the cake.

I would sell them together as a pair, at least initially, or price them so that it's not that much more to get them both compared to individually. They need to be seen as a set.

I've seen the video (and a version of the book from a couple years ago) and it's good and quite usefull for seeing how thing's are done and how to set stuff up, but without the details and theory in the book, the student may well be able to make an emulsion, but they will not know many of the reasons as to why they are doing certain steps.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Bill;

I've thought about this for a day or so since you suggested that the book be released first. I see your reasoning but I would like to bring to your attention the fact that you have seen all parts of my course, and this may be influencing your POV. For those who are wavering about homemade emulsions, perhaps the disk will be valuable to them, as much so as the book.

PE

I will buy the book, but I do not think that I will try making emulsions because of the difficulty of making a useful product. However, if I can see a video on the parts I think are hard, it would be much more likely that I will give it a problem.

Steve

 

[Athiril]

I agree with Bill - the video is like icing on the cake, with the book being the cake.

I would sell them together as a pair, at least initially, or price them so that it's not that much more to get them both compared to individually. They need to be seen as a set.

I've seen the video (and a version of the book from a couple years ago) and it's good and quite usefull for seeing how thing's are done and how to set stuff up, but without the details and theory in the book, the student may well be able to make an emulsion, but they will not know many of the reasons as to why they are doing certain steps.

Here is a picture of a cake I made a few days ago, icing can make the whole cake.

Dead Link Removed

 

[Photo Engineer]

Ok, ok, I give up. They go out together. Thanks for the feedback.

PE

 

[Hexavalent]

Ok, ok, I give up. They go out together. Thanks for the feedback.

PE

Does that mean that Athiril's tasty looking cake comes with the book/DVD?

 

[Photo Engineer]

Not unless he sends me one.

PE

 

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

Ron ,

Will you begin to kodachrome like film project after book is done ? I dont want to start a thread and no mouse stirring from your side also.
I read the archives and it was a beatiful start up.

Umut

 

[wildbillbugman]

Good Lord Mustafa,
You set high bars! And you do it frequently. I would hate to work for a company owned by you. But then mabe it would be fun.

I have made a deliberate descission that color film/emulsions will never be on my list of "things to do". I have plenty to do with a panchro emulsion suitable for color seps.
Bill