Too funny. Kodak can keep their limited thinking if that if is what works for them. Using that strategy I wont see Kodak's name and so will think of them less and less, which is probably why I ordered 20 rolls of Fuji 400H last week instead of Portra.
Kodak could delete kodak.com entirely and keep Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and a majority of the people they're targeting this camera to would never even notice the difference.
Facebook, on the other hand, requires that you give them every bit of info about you and the blood of your first child in their sacrificial altar.
other than a working email address there is not any enforced compulsion to give them ACCURATE information. you can say you are a 35 year old male Go-GO dancer from Ubeckastan and how are they going to know otherwise.
How do YOU know I am a go-go dancer in Uzbekistan?
There is a difference between marketing on Facebook and only marketing on Facebook.
Wrong Flavio... i'm the gigolo dancer in Uzbekistan.
Kodak statement Jan. 2016:
"The first new Super 8, expected to arrive in a limited-edition version in the fall of 2016, was conceived with help from the industrial designer Yves Behar. It is likely to cost between $400 to $750, Mr. Clarke estimated."
Kodak statement Nov. 2017:
"While an exact pricing has not been established, the unit cost will be around $2,500 to $3,000."
Prosumer? Ain't no such thing. When it was current S8 was never pitched at the professional market. Strictly amateur even though a few films that made it to general release contained a little blown up S8 footage. There were, though, cheapies and expensive ones with high ratio zoom lenses and more features than the cheapies.
Buy a copy of Lenny Lipton's The Super 8 Book. It isn't about technique, its about gear. He tried out many new cameras. The bad news is that one in three was dead on arrival.
People tout Beaulieus. They're beautiful artifacts but fragile. In my limited experience (4008 ZM, 4008 ZM2, 5008S-MS) used ones always need expensive overhauls. People tout Nikon R-8 and R-10. They have the nicest "the camera does it all" in camera fades and lap dissolves, but given the way films are shot these gimmicks, especially dissolves, are rarely useful. My R-10's f/1.4 (so engraved) zoom t-stopped around T/4. Really a camera for high noon. People tout Fuji's anti-Beaulieu the ZC-1000. Mine was beautiful and had the best finder of any S8 camera I've tried, but I hardly used it. When I got it Single 8 film and processing were too hard to get. I got it with the idea of putting its lens on a 4008 ZM2 or ZM4. In those days used 4008s were often sold without lenses. And then I lucked into what seemed to be a decent ZM2 with 6-66/1.8 Schneider so I sold the Fuji. People tout high end Canons, with 8x and 10x zooms. In all but the original 814 there's a rubber ball in the manual aperture mechanism. With age they all perish.
If I had to do it now and didn't have my Beaulieus (if they still work) I'd look for a high end Bauer. Back when, I bought a number of used Bauers, always as backups to my main camera, and all of them passed acceptance testing. High end Nizos had a good reputation but I never had one.
No matter what I bought, or from whom, I'd budget for an overhaul.
You seem to be pretty knowledgeable about film. Why not just go 16mm? You can buy a reworked Bolex pretty cheap and the company and resellers are still around to fix them. I keep kicking around (after I finish my darkroom) on getting a movie camera and the only reason I can see to get a Kodak is that they digitally scan it making it easier to share.
On a side note the Bauer's look cheap enough to jump into it without to much risk. Bolex are pretty pricey. Any particular model of the Bauer? What should I want and avoid in these cameras? Do I need a special attachment to record sound?
Back when, I couldn't afford 16mm. Cameras (Bolexes, mainly) weren't that expensive. Editors and projectors were affordable. The cost of film and processing was a killer. So was weight. For what I was doing, working by myself was just possible. With 16 I'd have needed a crew. I did think long and hard about a Richter ...
I took up S8 to be able to share the experience of my field trips, not to film, um, drama. I stopped shooting when doing it right go to be too much of a burden. The field trips were collecting trips and setting up for shots was time-consuming. Think about it. Setting up in the field to run 10 sec of film takes considerably longer than 10 sec.
AFAIK -- I'm out of it now, haven't been paying attention to what's available so could be mistaken -- striped S8 film is no longer made. So if you want to do S8 with sound you'll have to use camera and recorder with crystal sync. This can be retrofitted to cameras and I think Tobin is still around.
I never used a "modern" Bauer. I bought early egg-shaped ones as backups to my main camera (initially one of several Canon 814s, several models, later a Beaulieu). For many purposes, but not filming, say, birds from a distance Canon 310XLs are nearly ideal. I got wonderful footage from mine.
These days possible largish expenses that aren't absolutely necessary have to pass a test. About absolutely necessary, for example our dishwasher is making horrible noises. We paid for a service call to find out whether it could be saved, and if so how much saving it would cost. Short answer, no longer economic to repair. So I'm reconciled to buying another one. Similarly, my desktop PC recently died. Likely diagnosis, video card. So I gambled, bought one and lucked it. If it wasn't the card I'd have replaced the device and put the old drives in the new one.
The test? Would the action or purchase improve my life? Its surprising how many of the things I thought I wanted to have or do won't really improve my life.
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