A big blow to film production at Kodak and Fuji

[Photo Engineer]

Only if it takes off!

What I posted is here, now!

PE

 

[Tom Kershaw]

PE,

The "arts" cinema I frequent over here about once a week on average installed digital projection sometime last summer and uses these facilities for most new releases, and the quality of the presentation varies considerably from very good to DVD like. However, they still maintain 35mm projection for non first run films and other purposes. Aside from the high resolution potential of good film prints, I have noticed issues of colour quality / depth, and lack of good blacks with the digital projection systems; but I'm not intimate with the precise technology they are using.

Tom

 

[Photo Engineer]

Tom;

Actually, the best digital theater presentation I ever saw was a prototype Kodak system at a local theater. They threw it at us as a "trade trial" about 2 years ago when I went with one of our grandson's to see a show. It was quite good. However, the worst was one of the SW movies which had a lot of digital artifacts and as you say, suffered a lot.

PE

 

[Ektagraphic]

I haven't had time to read through this whole thread so this may have been asked but...I just saw a 3D movie at a local theater. It was most certainly digital projection . How come the movie companies couldn't print both of the images onto one film to make one film that contained all of the information?? The projector had a single lens. It was not traditional two lens projection but we were given the usual polarized glasses.

 

[aldevo]

If 3-D has made a comeback then surely Smell-O-Vision can't be far behind?

Perhaps EK can counter the latest digital onslaught with scratch 'n sniff film?

 

[Ektagraphic]

The more I read this and the more I think about it, digital projection really pisses me off!!

 

[Photo Engineer]

I haven't had time to read through this whole thread so this may have been asked but...I just saw a 3D movie at a local theater. It was most certainly digital projection . How come the movie companies couldn't print both of the images onto one film to make one film that contained all of the information?? The projector had a single lens. It was not traditional two lens projection but we were given the usual polarized glasses.

Digital 3D can switch images faster than the human eye can percieve the change due to persistence of vision, the same thing that motion picture film projection relies on. Analog requires two projectors as there is no electronic switching mechanism.

PE

 

[Sirius Glass]

If 3-D has made a comeback then surely Smell-O-Vision can't be far behind?

Perhaps EK can counter the latest digital onslaught with scratch 'n sniff film?

scratch 'n sniff film?

Do not shower for a few days. The drink lots of beer, eat sauerkraut, beans and sausage for lunch. See a movie that evening and you will have a scratch 'n sniff film!

:munch: :munch: :munch: :munch: :munch:​

 

[aldevo]

You cannot reuse or "rescue" outdated or surplus film or paper. It is essentially scrap. Look at it from the aspect of a butcher shop. What do they do with meats that have gone beyond the expiration date and are now bad?

PE

Well in the army we'd just cook it for a very long time and use lots of pepper

But in my experience I certainly had no luck "rescuing" out-of-date paper using BZT or Potassium Bromide.

 

[Photo Engineer]

What did you do with the maggots?

PE

 

[aldevo]

3D, though the Hot Thing now, is a passing fad.
It makes people sick (physically), and as soon as the first people start sueing the film theatres for the suffering they were subjected to, it will soon end.

The major theater chains are already down the road to converting to 3-D projection gear...that's not an expenditure they will write off quickly.

3-D might be a "fad" but it won't pass. Rather it will simply be "commoditized".

Video games are also going 3-D. I have a client that is a major game production studio and they have pledged that 70% of their titles will be 3-D by H2 of 2012.

3-D will be the norm, I'm afraid. You will soon have a whole generation of children reared on it whether it be TV, movies, or video games and an absence of that visual effect will not be regarded as acceptable.

PE, I'm afraid, is very right to be worried about this one,.

 

[aldevo]

What did you do with the maggots?

PE

You mean the rice?

 

[Ektagraphic]

Are these 3D films still originating on film?

 

[andrewkirkby]

Are these 3D films still originating on film?

Depends. Some are shot on film, others on digital.

 

[Sirius Glass]

flied lice?

 

[Photo Engineer]

flied lice?

Bedbugs.

 

[Curt]

SOS.

 

[Stephen Frizza]

take a look at this ...theaters in america have lowest attendance since 1997 but have made record profits this season!..... go figure. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks#p/u/13/ofRzPnHWe_A

...why is it so much to see a movie...crappy new projectors.

 

[Stephen Frizza]

I'm curious why is it that so often companies pay huge amounts to replace their superior equipment with lesser quality equipment?

 

[Curt]

Too bad it doesn't challenge the oil companies as a threat, they would buy it out and axe it.

 

[Q.G.]

I'm curious why is it that so often companies pay huge amounts to replace their superior equipment with lesser quality equipment?

Because it often is the only way to keep their paying customers.
The real question is how it is possible that those paying customers so readily pay more for less.
Collective stupidity, a.k.a. consumerism. How does it work, and when will they develop a vaccine?

 

[patrickjames]

I find myself watching less and less Hollywood movies these days. Do we really need to see action sequences again and again? Not to mention when you go to the theatre and the image is worse than what you have at home due to all of the digital artifacts, and many times you don't even see the whole image (look at the curtains around the screen). Hollywood is using tricks to try to get people to the movies, and is spending enormous amounts of money to do it. Why don't they just make good movies? Many European movies are excellent and the budgets for them are small. It is little wonder I rarely go to the theater any more, although I would like to see the new Corbijn/Clooney movie, but that is just geek talk because I know it will be a beautiful film/eye candy to watch even if the plot isn't that great.

 

[hoffy]

Because it often is the only way to keep their paying customers.
The real question is how it is possible that those paying customers so readily pay more for less.
Collective stupidity, a.k.a. consumerism. How does it work, and when will they develop a vaccine?

I suppose it all comes down to one word......marketing

Over the last few months, our state based media outlet, the ABC, have been running a very interesting show which examines marketing, the how's and the whys called the Gruen Transfer (interesting, as the ABC charter strictly forbids payed for advertising. I suppose this is the only true way that advertising can be examined independently).

A little while ago, they did the spiel on 3D TV's. Out of 4 advertising execs they had on the panel that night, only 1 thought that 3D TV was actually good…….. Regardless of their own personal thoughts, the companies that they control still persist on ramming it down our throats that the next big thing is 3D TV and it is a must have if you want to be up with new technology.

If a good marketer started a campaign that eating shit was good for you, you would be surprised with the number of people having poo sandwiches for their lunch each day….

 

[lxdude]

I was having a sandwich just now...

 

[clayne]

If a good marketer started a campaign that eating shit was good for you, you would be surprised with the number of people having poo sandwiches for their lunch each day….

Absolutely true.

Gone are the days of common sense and not chasing the Joneses.