35mm lens resolution measurements

alanrockwood

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I went to the link you posted and read a little about mtfmapper. It looks like it uses the slant edge method that I wrote about in the post I made a few minutes ago.
 

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Thank you for the reference to JKM Roland's paper. Note that the SPIE publication is behind a paywall, but on the imatest site it is freely accessible.
ImageJ is standalone; except of course for acquisition (digicam or scanner)
There is no confict with the Nyquist limit: with the slanted-edge method, one can obtain arbitrary fine sampling when the slanted edge is almost, but not quite perpendicular to the scanning direction. In round numbers, a 15° misalignment (wrt to perpendicular to scan direction) gives 4x oversampling, 7.5° 8x oversampling, etc, as long as the edge is indeed straight. That is the key point of the slanted-edge method. The wording "phase effects" in the article makes it sound more mysterious than it is. The slanted edge provides multiple scans of the edge, with small incremental offsets; merging the multiple scans results in a single scan with fine sampling;
Digital sharpening in the camera's firmware is not a problem per se: consider the camera as a black box (even if in silver finish) and consider that you are characterizing the system. Unless of course you want to characterize the lens rather than the lens+camera.
 

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I went to the link you posted and read a little about mtfmapper. It looks like it uses the slant edge method that I wrote about in the post I made a few minutes ago.
https://flic.kr/p/2dNAoEj

MTF Pentax M 85mm 5.6
by hoojammyflip, on Flickr

Here is the Pentax M 85mm at f5.6. Its incredibly sharp in comparison to my other lenses. I am just showing this here as a means of quantifying.

Realistically, to get this detail, its on a tripod with cable release, to remove camera shake.

Edit: reading your post, contrary to the suggestion to print on A4, I would suggest following the MTF Mapper instructions: go to a specialist printing shop and get one of the MTF Mapper vector targets, and send to them for proper printing. Mount the print on a board, screw it to something solid. Its going to give you the same results as the Cicala testing. The advantage of Pentax lenses is that I can mount them on a digital body directly.
 
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Where is Henning when we need him.

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Thanks George.

Well, he sometimes just need longer breaks from forums, to avoid a "forum burn-out"......And he has - fortunately - a real life outside the online-world, with lots of time-consuming challenges.
And he generally really prefers making photographs compared to talking about photography.........duckandhide...... And exactly that has been the case e.g. in the last days, concentrating on a wonderful photo project which gave me lots of joy, and resulted in 77 exposed films as well (and which of course are also now waiting to be processed by me).

I hope to come back here to this thread (and several others where photrio members have asked me to join in and share my knowledge) in the coming days / weeks. So please stay tuned.

Best regards,
Henning
 

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If you can’t get a great picture with any of the lenses made by the manufacturers listed above, the problem certainly isn’t your gear.

Yes, I think you're correct.

I don't feel anything missing when switching from Canon FD lenses to Nikkors to Pentaxes to Zenzanons or other lenses. The photographer is the weak link, not the lens.
 

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Gosh I would be happy if most folks understood the uses of
  • they're vs. there vs. their
so many cannot get a simple concept, 'contraction leaves out a letter or two...substitute an apostrophe'
So more complex concepts are hopeless.

It's just too complex to differentiate more than two things at once!
 

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You know that your lenses are good when people who look at your photos ask about the camera that you used.
 
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