220 Roll Film Tanks

[Reinhold]

OzJohn:

You're absolutely right.
I still can't believe I said that...

Reviewing my sketches, I was exploring the possibility of splicing a 15~16~17 exposure roll, since two 120's end-to-end would never fit onto a 120 spool. I was even toying with the idea of ordering a bulk roll of 120 film and winding a 19 exposure roll since my cameras would really squawk with a loosely wound 220 roll.

I still can't believe I said that...

Reinhold

 

[Steve Goldstein]

The System 4 tanks list 220 as one of the sizes compatible with the reels.

And I regularly load two 120 films on a single reel without problems.

Matt, is this with plastic or steel reels? If steel, how do you start the second roll right after the first in the correct portion of the spiral? I'd love to be able to run four 120 rolls at a time in my fat tank with 220 reels.

 

[CatLABS]

the paterson system 4 uses plastic reels.
Jobo reels have a special plastic tab, which can be pushed in after the first roll is loaded to prevent the second roll from over lapping. there are of course other, simple methods for loading 2 up 120 rolls on a single reels (paterson or Jobo) with no risk of overlap.
Perhaps we should do out next video on that.

There is no way to load 2 rolls of 120 on a single SS reel, unless of course you tape the two roll together....

 

[polyglot]

I nearly always load 2x120 into Jobo spirals because they're designed to do that with the little red tab to keep the films separate, but have never done it with a Paterson. I believe that the trick is to run the first film all the way in plus a couple inches, start feeding the second film in until it just overlaps and then tape the two together. Then feed the second one in and let it push the first through.

 

[MattKing]

I use the AP/Arista/Samigon reels that have the wider flanges, but work with the Paterson tanks.

I load the first roll of 120 into the reel. Once the full roll is loaded, I continue to push it further until the leading edge reaches the core - it stops there.

I then load the second roll untill it is fully on to the reel.

The rolls don't overlap - they both develop fine.

This does not work with either rotary agitation or agitation using the turning stick - that will cause the film to move in the channels of the reels, and may cause the rolls to overlap.

It does work with inversion agitation.

 

[Nuff]

I find it interesting that 220 commends a premium at B&H. I'm in Japan right now and 220 film is fraction cheaper than 120. There's stock of velvia, provia, fuji pro160/400 and 160/400 portras. Maybe something else I have missed as well.

Makes me wish that I had a camera which takes 220 film. Might be time to get a 220 back for my hasselblad.

 

[dynachrome]

I found developing 220 film with a Paterson reel inconvenient. The Ilford 220 b&w film felt even thinner than the Kodak stock. The nicest way to do regular tank and reel developing of 220 is with a Nikor wide spaced 220 tank and reel set. They are available on eBay and like most accessories for 220 film sell for much lower prices now. Very few people are interested in 220 backs or inserts at any price.

 

[Tony-S]

I've processed Velvia 50 220 with a Patterson Super System 4 reel and tank, and it worked just fine.

 

[Sirius Glass]

The Paterson and Jobo 2xxx spirals will take a 220 length.

Took the words out of my mouth [keyboard?]

 

[Brac]

I used 220 film in B&W in the 1980's and had no problem loading it into Paterson System 4 reels and there was no bit left over sticking out. There is/was a Spanish manufacturer of tanks & plastic reels which were often sold under various names - the reels could also take 220 films and I found the reels were, for me, actually easier to load than the Paterson ones.