Yes and no.
It's on the same spool as 120, so you can load it, but with no paper backing on the actual film, you'd have to keep the red windows closed (tape over them, most likely) and advance film by guess. Same for any red window camera.
Will a Hoga accept 220?
Yes and no.
It's on the same spool as 120, so you can load it, but with no paper backing on the actual film, you'd have to keep the red windows closed (tape over them, most likely) and advance film by guess. Same for any red window camera.
yes however, unless you have that model of camera your oddly screwed.In some models contemporary with the M645 family, it was a simple toggle flip type of operation to convert an insert from 120 to 220 or vice versa, so if you want spares, it would make sense to buy the 220 inserts and convert as needed...
but at teh same time i have yet to ever read about someone who DOESNT tape the red window on a holga over,, as well as every other seem, or spot where two surfaces connect.
I just can't think of any reason why China would need 220 film. Corner the market for a few guys on Photrio?
I don't know the ages of the individuals on Photrio advocating for 220 film, which is why I referred to them as "a few guys" and not "a couple of old farts". While I am not certain, I have the impression that you are not old enough to be an old fart, but you are free to assign yourself to any demographic you deem appropriate.It is cute that you think the film world revolves a couple of old farts on photrio.
Maybe they have, maybe they haven't, maybe they will, maybe they won't, maybe a whole lot of stuff. They are the only manufacturer of 220 film so, as you say, they do have an "edge" in the 220 market at present. It is up to photographers who want 220 to buy 220 to prove that a viable market for 220 exists. A lackluster demand for Shanghai 220 will not provide much incentive for other manufacturers to enter the market.Yes and it may be that Shanghai has worked out a way of producing 220 that either makes it a profit or keeps the losses to a very small amount and given it appears to want to establish or is that re-establish itself, it will continue to produce it. It does give it an "edge" over all the other producers of film.
...a niche of massive proportions...
I don't know the ages of the individuals on Photrio advocating for 220 film, which is why I referred to them as "a few guys" and not "a couple of old farts". While I am not certain, I have the impression that you are not old enough to be an old fart, but you are free to assign yourself to any demographic you deem appropriate.
Perhaps the 220 world has grown since Ilford determined it was economically unfeasible to make 220 film and they will reconsider. Until then, 220 advocates will have to rely on Shanghai. How many rolls of Shanghai 220 have you shot, and what was your experience? Perhaps Photrio members recounting good experiences with Shanghai 220 will encourage other film enthusiasts to give it a try.
I didn't realize they were selling new-made 620 and 127. I might have to order a couple rolls of each; I've got a Baby Brownie that needs exercise, as well as a Reflex II that doesn't get out enough because it's difficult to trim the spools well enough (and respooling is a PITA).
It is cute that you think the film world revolves a couple of old farts on photrio.
I didn't realize they were selling new-made 620 and 127. I might have to order a couple rolls of each; I've got a Baby Brownie that needs exercise, as well as a Reflex II that doesn't get out enough because it's difficult to trim the spools well enough (and respooling is a PITA).
I too would be interested in a source of 620 film of the ISO 100 flavor. Please post any source information.
My understanding is that 120 size film fits the 620 spool, so the film for 120, 220 and 620 is the same. So Shanghai's 620 film is the same as its 120/220 film. The Film Photography Project sells 620 re-spooled from 120, and also sells empty 620 spools for the do-it-yourselfer. I am not sure whose film they use.
https://filmphotographyproject.com/?s=620
Additionally, at least the FPP 620 spools are injection molded plastic, and as such have slightly thicker flanges than the old metal ones, which means there are a (very) few 620 cameras that don't like them. Some of the 620 I've seen also seems to have drive key slots compatible with 120, which will make them loose on a 620 drive key, potentially leading to jams if there's too much friction in the film path.
I don't expect we'll ever see metal 620 spools again; they'd cost too much to make in the quantities demanded (as opposed to tens or hundreds of millions a year when Kodak was selling most of their medium format films in 620). It's tempting to wonder, however, about a hybrid, with stamped metal end flanges bonded to a plastic core (which could be thicker than the original 620 core, as witness trimmed 120 meeting diameter limits without respooling).
My understanding is that 120 size film fits the 620 spool, so the film for 120, 220 and 620 is the same. So Shanghai's 620 film is the same as its 120/220 film. The Film Photography Project sells 620 re-spooled from 120, and also sells empty 620 spools for the do-it-yourselfer. I am not sure whose film they use.
https://filmphotographyproject.com/?s=620
That aside. I too would be interested in a source of 620 film of the ISO 100 flavor. Please post any source information.
Hey, I may be old but I can assure you that the farts are recently manufactured and new.
I haven’t tried these yet, but I bookmarked them a month ago when I got a cheap AAR 620 6x9 roll film holder:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274890737881?var=575157416795
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