220 Film Prices

[Agulliver]

On the other hand, it's no harder to recut 120 to 127 than to respool it for 620. Same is true for 828, as long as your camera doesn't depend on the one perf per frame to stop advance or reset/unlock the shutter. For 220, though, film pretty well has to be originally confectioned that way.

I would disagree. The 120 to 620 just requires you to wind the film onto another 120 spool (in a camera) then hand wind it back onto a 620 spool in a changing bag or dark room.

No precision cutting of film which does require a dark room and some sort of cutting rig, no sourcing 127 backing paper and sticking it to the correct parts of the film.

 

[eli griggs]

If you're cutting down individual 120 rolls, the paperbacking is right there as well as the film.

There are/or recently were, still a number of 127 film rolls out in the World, that have accumulated forgotten, in old photo processing shops, drugstores, etc, that can be had at minimum cost, or free, as my own experience has shown me, where you can recycle both the roller and papers from, for rolling your own with the correct sized/cut paper backing.

I do suggest you get a good paper lable maker and use these on the top and end paper tongues and tails, before the lights go out for adding the film.

Trying to remember what's in an old, marked roll of film without a lable, simply sucks.

I would disagree. The 120 to 620 just requires you to wind the film onto another 120 spool (in a camera) then hand wind it back onto a 620 spool in a changing bag or dark room.



No precision cutting of film which does require a dark room and some sort of cutting rig, no sourcing 127 backing paper and sticking it to the correct parts of the film.

 

[Agulliver]

Have you tried buying expired 127 film lately? It's fetching more than the fresh stuff from Shanghai or Rerapan!

 

[eli griggs]

That's a very significant reason why rolling your own is such a better choice, for those of us that do no have incomes of the rich.

Plus it's fun to do, most times at least.

I should make a paper cutter template from matboard just to speed up cutting 120 papers to 127 size and a daylight paper cutter for width.

 

[Sirius Glass]

That's a very significant reason why rolling your own is such a better choice, for those of us that do no have incomes of the rich.

Plus it's fun to do, most times at least.

I should make a paper cutter template from matboard just to speed up cutting 120 papers to 127 size and a daylight paper cutter for width.

Some people enjoy rolling their own just before they smoke them.

 

[Donald Qualls]

precision cutting of film which does require a dark room and some sort of cutting rig, no sourcing 127 backing paper and sticking it to the correct parts of the film.

I've never done the width cut in the dark. I've never tried or needed to source 127 backing paper. I trim the original 120 backing to width when cutting the film (in room light), then cut the head and tail paper to about half original length and form a tail to go in the spool slot (also in the light) in between respooling steps; after doing so a full length 120 recut will (just) fit between the 127 spool flanges (same is true for 828, with somewhat shorter head and tail). I have 127 spools around (not a bunch, but enough for immediate needs).

IMO, this has a couple more steps, but is in no way more difficult than respooling to 620.

 

[AnselMortensen]

Exciting news!
The ten rolls of Shanghai GP3 220 I ordered November 6th arrived today, December 13th.
I have done my part in supporting a niche market.
Anybody else care to follow suit?

 

[eli griggs]

Where did you order from and shipping fee?

 

[eli griggs]

Always a sound practice, but no with film.

Some people enjoy rolling their own just before they smoke them.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Always a sound practice, but no with film.

Use safety film not nitrate film. Just a suggestion.

 

[mshchem]

I was looking in my film fridge today, I found 4 rolls of Portra 160 220. Quite fresh considering. I need to shoot it in my Fujica G617, 8 exposures, perfect

 

[eli griggs]

I like this film, is it NC or the VC?

I was looking in my film fridge today, I found 4 rolls of Portra 160 220. Quite fresh considering. I need to shoot it in my Fujica G617, 8 exposures, perfect [/QUOT

 

[mshchem]

I like this film, is it NC or the VC?

It's the current Portra 160, it was some of the last stock from B&H. They sold out of the 400 speed 1st, I bought a couple pro packs of the 160.
Portra 160 and 400, are my favorite of all time color negative films.

 

[Huss]

Exciting news!
The ten rolls of Shanghai GP3 220 I ordered November 6th arrived today, December 13th.
I have done my part in supporting a niche market.
Anybody else care to follow suit?

Nice. Shoot a roll and post results. I'd like to see if the quality issues that I experienced have been fixed.

Still waiting for mine to show up.

 

[eli griggs]

Some of the quickest shipping I've ever had, has been from China, but sometime it can take weeks.

It's always a craps shoot.

Do post pics soon and rate the easiness of loading, correct exposures and both development and printing experience.

Do with of you have a wet
darkroom?

Cheers and Godspeed.

 

[AgX]

It is entirely possible that Shanghai don't need to make a profit.

A charity enterprise thus?

 

[Donald Qualls]

A charity enterprise thus?

Or a government organ.

 

[AgX]

Which government would run such firm non-profit?

 

[Sirius Glass]

Which government would run such firm non-profit?

I believe he means that the Chinese government is supporting Shanghai. Probably not the only government supported industry.

 

[AgX]

Even if a manufacturer would by subsidized by a government this does not mean that such government wants products sold without profit were profit is possible.

Such only would make sense to place that product/manufacturer in the/a market. But such is done by private investors too.
So what?

Or is here again some anti-chinese resentment?

 

[MattKing]

Short term support leading to long term, beneficial market presence is a different thing than being charitable.
But I can't see it in this context, unless production and sale of these products is piggybacking on something of much more general benefit.

 

[Donald Qualls]

Or is here again some anti-chinese resentment?

Not from me, I use Chinese products all the time. However, it has been speculated on other threads on Photrio that the Chinese government may have some reason to want to keep certain film products in production that the rest of the world seemingly doesn't need. Products like 127 and 620, obsolete sheet film sizes, and yes, seemingly, 220. These (roll film formats, at least) were common enough within living memory to be expected in retail film outlets as recently as the early 2000s -- and then they were gone. I'm halfway surprised they aren't supporting 828, 126, and 110.

 

[AgX]

It has been speculated on other threads on Photrio that the Chinese government may have some reason to want to keep certain film products in production that the rest of the world seemingly doesn't need. Products like 127 and 620, obsolete sheet film sizes, and yes, seemingly, 220.

This implies that China needs these obsolete formats so much that their government subsidizes their production.

What a story...

 

[Donald Qualls]

I didn't say I believed it. The only reason to need 220 is if you don't have high res digital and need to shoot a lot, fast, and get a very high information content per frame. Or you just like it.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Even if a manufacturer would by subsidized by a government this does not mean that such government wants products sold without profit were profit is possible.

Such only would make sense to place that product/manufacturer in the/a market. But such is done by private investors too.
So what?

Or is here again some anti-chinese resentment?

Do not forget that the US Government subsidized HIE and IR Ektachrome for decades to keep IR film alive and available as a national asset. Nothing that I posted is or was intented to be anti-Chinese.