1950's Graflex Speed Graphic - what to look for?

Loved the lighting

Loved the lighting

  • 10
  • 1
  • 60
People United by Coffee

A
People United by Coffee

  • 2
  • 0
  • 67

Recent Classifieds

Forum statistics

Threads
200,643
Messages
2,811,398
Members
100,325
Latest member
Gero Giambrone
Recent bookmarks
3

BrianShaw

Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2005
Messages
16,871
Location
La-la-land
Format
Multi Format
Buy it...
... and don’t worry about “mistreating” it. They are tough cameras. If you control do your homework you’ll not make any mistakes that will damage the camera. Is the ground glass there too?
 
OP
OP
jay moussy

jay moussy

Member
Joined
Jun 10, 2019
Messages
1,315
Location
Eastern MA, USA
Format
Hybrid
More on the film holders:
only one Grafmatic, with its septums,
Two wood-frame "dualies", Agfa, Graflex, and a plastic Riteway
A no-name film holder (a tad smaller than the Graftmatic), containing a "Kodak Professional" metal dispenser.

It would appear the Kodak thing was a preloaded off-the-shelf item?

EDIT: From the wear marks, it looks like the Grafmatic came in much later in the life of the camera , as the "dualies" show more use.

Yes, ground glass. and Graflok back, with the foldable hood. Neat,
 
Last edited:

Theo Sulphate

Member
Joined
Jul 3, 2014
Messages
6,489
Location
Gig Harbor
Format
Multi Format
...
To the type of shutter. all I can say is the cocking is at 2:30, release at 9, and focus lever at around 4.
...

Focus lever? Do you mean aperture? Focus is with the knobs on the bed.

Does yours look like mine, below?

IMAG6627~2.jpg

Notice that the lever which contacts the release on the lens can be adjusted for position.
 

shutterfinger

Member
Joined
Feb 25, 2013
Messages
5,020
Location
San Jose, Ca.
Format
4x5 Format
A no-name film holder (a tad smaller than the Graftmatic), containing a "Kodak Professional" metal cassette.
Film Pack Adapter, use as a paper weight or base for a modification of your own design.
Still a good buy as smooth working grafmatics go for $90+.

Basic Tessar lens diagram:
Tessar.jpeg

Light travels direction of the arrow.
 

BrianShaw

Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2005
Messages
16,871
Location
La-la-land
Format
Multi Format
“Dualies”... never heard them called that before. But cute term; it just might catch on. :smile:
 
OP
OP
jay moussy

jay moussy

Member
Joined
Jun 10, 2019
Messages
1,315
Location
Eastern MA, USA
Format
Hybrid
Focus lever? Do you mean aperture? Focus is with the knobs on the bed.

Does yours look like mine, below?

View attachment 225824

Notice that the lever which contacts the release on the lens can be adjusted for position.

1- the manual (which is all I know!) speaks of a "Press Focus Lever", which opens the shutter blades for FP shutter operation - as in, allow focus on ground glass, I guess.

2. No, does not look like yours, and yes there is a provision for height adjustment, which is needed in my case.
 
Last edited:

Jim Jones

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 16, 2006
Messages
3,740
Location
Chillicothe MO
Format
Multi Format
The rising front isn't very useful for many shots taken with a 135mm Optar where you are trying to record sharp detail in the image's upper corners. That Optar doesn't have as much coverage as many lenses designed for view cameras with greater front movements.
 

Jim Jones

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 16, 2006
Messages
3,740
Location
Chillicothe MO
Format
Multi Format
Jay, what you earlier called a focusing knob selects the correct sync for a variety of flashes. X is for electronic flash and F and M are for fast and medium sync delay for those two classes of flash bulbs.
 
OP
OP
jay moussy

jay moussy

Member
Joined
Jun 10, 2019
Messages
1,315
Location
Eastern MA, USA
Format
Hybrid
So it is in the house, airing out a bit.
The camera hardly shows any wear, as it was used on low-key military hush-hush project (think "alien" - yes, that's what you think!).
I would say the last it was used must be mid 1960s, and has been stored since.

The lens shutter operation was a bit sticky but has improved. FP curtain just does its thing.
Lots of learning to be done, focusing, rangefinder, film loading, etc.
I need to consider light cleaning, or lubricating where applies. I have gathered various manuals, but I am not sure if they cover maintenance in detail.
Body wipe?
Rails - lube lightly?
Focusing screen could use a mild cleaning - best practice?

I have 4 large flashbulbs for the large Graflite reflector, and a bayonet for the small one - safe storage?
 

shutterfinger

Member
Joined
Feb 25, 2013
Messages
5,020
Location
San Jose, Ca.
Format
4x5 Format
TriFlow for lubing oil. May be available locally at hardware stores. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tri-Flow-S...848745&hash=item443fa76591:g:kvQAAOSw5VFWOR79
White lithium grease or light bike grease for grease, again should be available locally. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Finish-Lin...t0AAOSwcldUZ71q:sc:USPSFirstClass!94080!US!-1
Oil, a drop about the size of a straight pin point on pivots. Grease, a trace (light sheen) on metal surfaces that slide on each other. Oil and grease act like glue if too much is used.
Extra fine powdered graphite is also useful as a dry lubricant.

Rails (yoke) should be clean and free of grease or oil, except the linkage between the front and bed sections which benefit from a trace of oil on the pivot pins.

Ground Glass/ Fresnel: Remove them from the focus panel. Immerse in warm water, remove and apply a drop of dish soap about 1/4 inch in diameter and 1/16 inch deep to one surface while holding by the edges then gently rub with your finger tips only until the entire surface is covered, repeat for the other side. Rinse under warm running water. Mix a weak PhotoFlo solution and rinse in it then stand on edge to air dry or dry with a clean lint free cloth. Fresnel: rub the ribbed side in the direction of the ribs only. Assembly is Fresnel, plain side facing lens, ground glass, ground side facing lens.
NO Fresnel? disregard the Fresnel tips, ground side of ground glass still faces the lens.
 

Paul Howell

Subscriber
Joined
Dec 23, 2004
Messages
9,956
Location
Scottsdale Az
Format
Multi Format
Wonder who in the Gov owned it? Military cameras were usually marked with the branch of service. Might make it somewhat more collectible.
 

wombat2go

Member
Joined
Jul 21, 2013
Messages
352
Location
Michigan
Format
Medium Format
Wonder who in the Gov owned it? Military cameras were usually marked with the branch of service. Might make it somewhat more collectible.
This one ( mine not Jay's)
has "Property of United States Government BMI-NO 68668"
I was not able to find anything about BMI-NO on internet.

By the Graflex serial number I was able to trace the manufacture date to 1956, I recall.
Also I have a Mahoganite 2x3 Century that traced to 1953.
 

Paul Howell

Subscriber
Joined
Dec 23, 2004
Messages
9,956
Location
Scottsdale Az
Format
Multi Format
1956 sounds right, after WWII the military destroyed hundreds of if thousands of Speeds to prevent them from glutting the civilian market and putting Graflex out of business.
 
Photrio.com contains affiliate links to products. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links.
To read our full affiliate disclosure statement please click Here.

PHOTRIO PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Ilford ADOX Freestyle Photographic Stearman Press Weldon Color Lab Blue Moon Camera & Machine
Top Bottom