No problem Brian and I have never directly tried to offend any single person, even if I disagree with them, on this site. Not my style at all. I do like the interview with Kodak's Product Manager. That's exactly how a business solves the problem of people badmouthing them without knowing the facts from first hand knowledgeable people. Really very simple thing to do, but it's seems very hard to get some of these companies or enterprises to do just that. Yes, I'm very curious to see what happens to Ilford's film emulsion next to Foma's paper and ink. If nothing else it will at least prove to me that I was right in my way of thinking or that I was dead wrong. Either way, I will post the results of my findings. It could very well be that I am 100% off track, but at least I'll know.Hi John, no need to defend yourself to me. I understand you although I don’t necessarily agree. Engineering changes, even those that are seemingly easy, can be complex and costly… and impossible to fully understand the decisions and trade space unless one is part of the engineering team.
You were not the source of “Ilford don’t care”; apparently that’s an impression that was given to another member.
The problem in every one of these discussions is that the bulk of the information stated or recited is not supported by documentation. Im trusting but “trust me” sources tend to incite a desire for authoritative first-hand verifiable sources. So far, the only verifiable source seems to be the interview with a Kodak Product Manager linked earlier.
Good luck with your experiment. Should be interesting.
Hi Matt. Just for context and not intended to be confrontational. Most industries transitioned to soy-based inks about 3 decades ago.
What I miss are the Fuji Easy-Load spools. I've saved up a number of them. Just that slightly more convex top and bottom surface did make a distinct difference in ease of loading. The current Acros II film doesn't use them. I wonder who owns the patent.
Which was about when Eastman Kodak probably last manufactured and printed backing paper - they were left with years of inventory when the film market imploded.
And it was only after that inventory ran out, and they had to find new sources, that they saw the huge uptick in wrapper offset problems.
If I understand things correctly, that was also about when Ilford started to have to revise the printing, and their numbers became much dimmer.
It's worth remembering that at the time that Harman had to change their backing paper (was it 2018/19?), their access to R&D costs was vastly lower than that available to Kodak. It's not that they didn't care, or used a 3rd class intern...they did the best they could.
It is just about possible that with the recent injection of investment from Lloyds, aimed at R&D, there might be some improvements. Though I would imagine most of that R&D will be put to colour film.
So has Ilford simply been unlucky in its choice of emulsion compared to Kodak and Fuji? In Kodak's case it seems it had to spend a lot of money to solve the problem from what Matt says. Is this the kind of money Ilford cannot afford?
I am not sure how Fuji has avoided this problem of backing paper's not interfering with denser printing. Was it just sheer luck?
I don't think that Ilford deliberately ignores any of its customers but what I do accept is that like any other company that needs to stay in business it will work out what it might cost to cure the problem that affects users of red window cameras and from that work out the cost to benefit involved
In that sense Ilford is no different to any other company and will thus ignore such customers
pentaxuser
I wonder if the sparse availability of Fujichrome films may be related to, not entirely the coating process, but the availability of the cassettes, and backing papers etc??
.......
... and the nice Fuji touch of the hole/slot-catch in the spool ... someone at Fuji actually put some thought into this.
They did! Fun facts: These innovative features were patented, world-wide, about 2000-2001. Some of the individuals we can thank are
Teruyoshi Makino, Jun Inose, Ayako Okubo, Ryuji Uemura, Shunichi Hosaka, Masayoshi Nagata, and Yukiyoshi Ishii.
Yup, them young whipper-snappers do have better eyes, but I'm very sure they would even have a hard time seeing numbers through the ruby window on my Wirgin. If I get a chance I'll take a digi shot today, in broad daylight, just to show you what I'm talking about. Oh, and both windows are spotless with no scratches. It's a good little picture taker, but those ruby windows leave something to be desired.It also might be the case that almost all the current growth - as such as it is - in 120 film use is mainly amongst those who have younger eyes!
I am quite sure that 20 year old me would have had far less difficulty with the modern, fainter numbers than 68 year old me does.
They did! Fun facts: These innovative features were patented, world-wide, about 2000-2001. Some of the individuals we can thank are
Teruyoshi Makino, Jun Inose, Ayako Okubo, Ryuji Uemura, Shunichi Hosaka, Masayoshi Nagata, and Yukiyoshi Ishii.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?