LUCKY C200 120

[ChrisGalway]

The frame number problems that Kodak struggled with were particularly strange, because the effect that users had to deal with was that the ink pressed into the emulsion caused the emulsion to be sensitized, resulting in more density in that part of the negative image.
So one ended up with lighter toned numbers and letters in the skies and other parts of the image on the prints.
Film emulsions are designed to be very, very sensitive!

I understand that, but one might have thought that Kodak, with >125 years of roll film experience (1899 for 616), would have cracked this by now. Ilford have only had about 100 years!

We can see from Fujifilm's products, the issue can be solved, or least a much longer shelf life can be obtained for bold printed numbers before any "print-through" effect is visible (well past the normal expiry date). Fuji's 120 spools are also better designed than either Ilford's or Kodak's. I think at some point in history they put some R&D effort into the whole roll film packaging process, which is a little different than spooling 35mm cassettes.

 

[gbroadbridge]

I understand that, but one might have thought that Kodak, with >125 years of roll film experience (1899 for 616), would have cracked this by now.

They probably did but perhaps those the materials are no longer available.

They possibly cause cancer for folks in California.

 

[Prest_400]

To be frank, I haven't had print through issues the latest years with either Ilford or Kodak as long as the film is fresh and well stored. (Expiration after 2024)
It's mostly been mottling with Ilford's, it it has been in hot and humid conditions and/or expired a while. Foma does it also.

Fuji had some great improvements in 120. IIRC they barcoded it, which their automatic cameras could read, then have the EZ load catch system. As a "larger medium format" user aka 6x9, 220 would be lovely for travel and such uses.

I might try Lucky C200 if it becomes locally available. Looking forward to the rumored C400 that might be in the works. Exciting times!

 

[Agulliver]

Oh that Kodak backing paper looks better than the stuff I currently have. Maybe they have further improved the backing paper or tweaked the emulsion to permit darker numbers.

Still, the Lucky is even better....as strongly inked as Foma and Lomography 120 films.

 

[lightfundove]

They probably did but perhaps those the materials are no longer available.

They possibly cause cancer for folks in California.

I don't know anyone from California, and I don't want people from California to take drugs over a few rolls of film.

 

[lightfundove]

To be frank, I haven't had print through issues the latest years with either Ilford or Kodak as long as the film is fresh and well stored. (Expiration after 2024)
It's mostly been mottling with Ilford's, it it has been in hot and humid conditions and/or expired a while. Foma does it also.

Fuji had some great improvements in 120. IIRC they barcoded it, which their automatic cameras could read, then have the EZ load catch system. As a "larger medium format" user aka 6x9, 220 would be lovely for travel and such uses.

I might try Lucky C200 if it becomes locally available. Looking forward to the rumored C400 that might be in the works. Exciting times!

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times,"

 

[blee1996]

I finally scanned the roll of Lucky C200 120. I like the film. All the colors are relatively correct, grain is good, shadows are ok, and slightly more vibrant colors. I like it a bit more than Harman Phoenix, which has the orange red and shadows are grainy. I even prefer it to Kodak Gold 200, due to the less yellow and more neutral palette. It has a bit of old Kodak Gold vibe.

 

[lightfundove]

I finally scanned the roll of Lucky C200 120. I like the film. All the colors are relatively correct, grain is good, shadows are ok, and slightly more vibrant colors. I like it a bit more than Harman Phoenix, which has the orange red and shadows are grainy. I even prefer it to Kodak Gold 200, due to the less yellow and more neutral palette. It has a bit of old Kodak Gold vibe.

I personally think the second-to-last photo looks as good as a master's work. I didn't expect there to be a site like Flicker; I need to do some research.

 

[blee1996]

I personally think the second-to-last photo looks as good as a master's work. I didn't expect there to be a site like Flicker; I need to do some research.

Flickr is a hidden treasure for photographers who were cool 20 years ago.

 

[lightfundove]

 

[lightfundove]

Premier Z1650D Noritsu HS-1800
LUCKY C400 135

 

[lightfundove]

 

[lightfundove]

Mamiya C220 105mm Noritsu HS-1800

 

[lightfundove]

 

[lightfundove]

Kowa Super 66 55mm Noritsu HS-1800

 

[lightfundove]

My new device has a bit of light leakage

 

[blee1996]

I wonder if they will release Lucky C200 in sheet film for large format, at an affordable price. That will be really nice.

 

[brbo]

Premier Z1650D Noritsu HS-1800
LUCKY C400 135

I'm sure it's just a typo, but do not play with us like that...!

 

[lightfundove]

I wonder if they will release Lucky C200 in sheet film for large format, at an affordable price. That will be really nice.

They said 'yes,' but I don't expect it, because there is only one week until the end of May, and the color reversal film has already jumped to July.

 

[lightfundove]

I'm sure it's just a typo, but do not play with us like that...!

Test Not for sale

 

[brbo]

You are testing a brand new ISO 400 colour negative film and the only fuss you make about it is… sorry, you make no fuss about it?! You just casually half mention this?

(I like this guy! Please nobody tell him he’s supposed to monetize this through hour long videos of endless blabbering on youtube)

 

[ChrisGalway]

They said 'yes,' but I don't expect it, because there is only one week until the end of May, and the color reversal film has already jumped to July.

Did you say "color reversal"? I had heard from Retro that Lucky were promising a color reversal film in 2026 ... is it really going to be in July? That would be awesome, even if it's delayed to later in 2026!

 

[brbo]

A new slide film would be awesome even if it was delayed to 2028. That's probably still before you will take delivery of your next batch of Fuji slide film (probably limited to 2 rolls)...

 

[gbroadbridge]

View attachment 425586
Test Not for sale

That is an amazingly clean looking 400 film

 

[blee1996]

I applaud their ambition, and hope they go steady by perfecting 1-2 emulsions before going all direction all at once. My hope is one good C41 and one good E6 emulsion, in mainstream formats (135, 120, 4x5/8x10).