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Nikon FA: A closer look at service and technology; repair and dissection

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Andreas Thaler

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The Nikon FA from 1983 is often discussed online, but mostly from a user’s perspective. I searched in vain for a post about service or repairs, or even a look inside the camera.

That’s why I was very happy to get my hands on two FA cameras with issues, so I could do some pioneering work here, so to speak.

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FA #1 had irreparable shutter damage.

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FA #2 had several issues, probably drop damage.
  • It can be cocked, but apparently always releases at the same shutter speed.
  • The LCD only shows a steady implausible value; the red LED for exposure compensation works.
  • The LCD is cracked, and the ADR (Aperture Direct Readout) prism shows the set aperture on the lens shifted.
  • The plastic cover on the winding lever is missing, and the lever is bent.
  • The exposure counter is set to 'S' and doesn't move.

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I was able to fully restore FA #2 using spare parts from FA #1.

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The latter served as part two of the project for a dissection and provided insights into the fascinating technology inside Nikon’s most advanced SLR from at this time.

The report on this interesting dual project can be found on photo.net.

Before that, I had to defend the Nikon FA’s reputation as a reliable SLR in a heated discussion 🙃

Nikon FA: A closer look at service and technology

The complex inner workings of the Nikon FA

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I was hoping you’d post something on the FA! It’s my go-to manual focus 35mm and I love the way it feels and sounds. Some day I’d really love to take some time to design modern replacement electronics for it just as a fun side project.

One of mine is a “daily driver” and almost never not loaded with film, but I have another with a winding issue (the moment the winding lever returns by a small bit, one of the curtains fires, I don’t remember which). Maybe I should find the time to investigate that :smile:
 
How do you go about it?

It would be a huge undertaking, and something I'd have to approach incrementally. More of an idle dream than something I intend to actually DO unless I can store up a giant reserve of motivation. My approach would lean heavily on my occupational experience designing circuit boards and programming microcontrollers. Also some experience reverse-engineering electronic systems.

First, I'd take the FA apart carefully documenting all the sensors and actuators that the electronics control - basically everything that touches the electronics other than calibration dials, which I'd replace later by configuration data loaded into the software from some external interface that I'd be adding (such as a USB interface through contacts on the bottom plate for example). The photos you've got here and in your photo.net thread are an excellent reference for most if not all of what I'd be looking for in this stage - essentially to build a list of things the electronics need to "talk" to.

For each such interface I would spend time researching, probing, and experimenting to determine how the electronics interact with the part. For example, measuring resistances, voltages, or currents and mapping out correspondence to whatever is being measured. Or measuring out and listing the encoder values corresponding to different positions of the user interface knobs. For things controlled by the electronics, I'd investigate the circuit on the original design that drives it, identifying the drive voltage and/or current for solenoids for example.

In many cases I'd prefer to reuse specialized original components, like the LCD, and figure out how to control them myself (voltage needed, which segment is driven by which contact, etc). In other cases, if it makes sense on a case by case basis, I might replace sensors by modern equivalents (hall effect sensors to detect magnetic component states for example).

Once I develop a good understanding of the things the board must do, I'd then set out to design the board - either as a single "rigid-flex" circuit (one similar to the original, which consists of multiple rigid parts connected by flexible circuits) or, more likely, multiple boards connected by flexible ribbon cables. Either way, there are contract manufacturers in China that do excellent work on boards like that for relatively low costs at low volume. The main processor for the board would likely be a modern 32-bit microcontroller with built-in ADCs, DACs, and other useful parts. Without having done the other reverse engineering work yet it's hard to be certain but given advances in technology it's likely that the total amount of circuitry needed to do the same thing would be quite a bit less than what Nikon needed back in the 1980's.

Assuming I got this far, the last big push would be software development, testing, and calibration. I would need to create software to run on the new processor that recreates the functionality of the FA's original electronics. But I would also have the opportunity to use newer tech to go beyond what they did. One of the biggest things I'd like to add is the ability to record and export shot data, like later cameras such as the F6. Depending on mechanical feasibility, I'd love to be able to add the necessary contacts to the lens mount to be able to communicate with the lenses as well, and log which ones were used - potentially also adding support later for more recent lens features like the "G" and "E" lenses, maybe even "VR" depending on whether it requires additional sensors in the body. If there's enough space, I could potentially also include a GPS module inside the body in order to always have accurate timestamps, as well as location data for each shot.

This is a massive amount of work for a side project, but I'd love to just chip away at it for the next few years. It's also something that, once built, could be tailored to other camera bodies. My "day job" is pretty unsatisfying to me, so I'd like to get to a place in life where I could start a business processing film, printing, repairing cameras and lenses, and building custom weird stuff like that. Bringing new life to old tech is a wonderful thing.
 
That's fascinating—thanks for the overview!

May I ask, what is your professional background? Computer science, electronics?

I’d love to understand in detail what’s going on inside the ICs, for example in the FA—how the calculations are done, how it’s structured internally—but that would lead me down a bottomless rabbit hole.

I imagine it as an analog-to-digital conversion: binary values zipping through logic gates, being processed together, converted from digital to analog, and then the red LED lights up in the FA 🙃

But how it all really works in detail will always remain a mystery to me.

So far, I haven’t found any literature on the subject, but the AI offers some interesting insights here.

If you take on this project and it doesn’t conflict with your interests, a report here would be great!



The FA was presented in 1983. How was the circuit designed and calculated back then? Was it already computer-aided, or was some of it still done by hand?
 
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I’d love to understand in detail what’s going on inside the ICs, for example in the FA—how the calculations are done, how it’s structured internally—but that would lead me down a bottomless rabbit hole.

I imagine it as an analog-to-digital conversion: binary values zipping through logic gates, being processed together, converted from digital to analog, and then the red LED lights up in the FA 🙃
Almost certainly, the FA just uses a giant lookup table in ROM (read-only memory) with the light-reading values from each of the 5 sensors being used to lookup in the table for what exposure to select. The table no doubt uses some sort of compression to achieve smaller size (since the memory capacity of ICs in those days was very limited). I doubt very much it does any computations at all: Everything was pre-encoded in the lookup table. I am speculating, but I used to design ICs in the 80's, and similar techniques were used in, for example, speech generators for talking Pinball Machines of that era.
 
Almost certainly, the FA just uses a giant lookup table in ROM (read-only memory) with the light-reading values from each of the 5 sensors being used to lookup in the table for what exposure to select. The table no doubt uses some sort of compression to achieve smaller size (since the memory capacity of ICs in those days was very limited). I doubt very much it does any computations at all: Everything was pre-encoded in the lookup table. I am speculating, but I used to design ICs in the 80's, and similar techniques were used in, for example, speech generators for talking Pinball Machines of that era.

Thanks!

It would be great if someone could explain the basics of camera electronics to interested non-experts in a more detailed post. A brief overview of how this has evolved.

As far as I know, the Minolta XE still uses a purely analog circuit with operational amplifiers and capacitors to store electrical values as charges.

The Canon AE-1 introduced the first elements of digital technology; subsequent SLRs had microprocessors; in the Nikon F4, adjustment values were stored electronically, and so on.

A comprehensive overview of all this would be a huge benefit.
 
May I ask, what is your professional background? Computer science, electronics?

It’s somewhat varied. Initially math and CS, then windows and macOS “app” development for a while, gradually more and more low-level and physics-adjacent until I was designing circuit boards and programming embedded systems of various kinds (for those who might not know, “embedded systems” is a general term for all the little programmable chips inside everything that we don’t normally think of as computers but they kinda are).

These days I mostly work on radio systems. I’ve fallen into a weird niche where I have a LOT of job security but I don’t really like the industry as a whole for various reasons.

A comprehensive overview of all this would be a huge benefit.
Maybe someday I could help with that but my specializations are other things. I feel pretty comfortable with the idea of diving into a project like I described because I understand a lot of the foundational physics and electronics but I’d be learning a lot of camera-industry-specific stuff along the way. I’m by no means an expert in how these technologies were applied in that domain, I just have a head start on some of the basic principles that probably makes me too ambitious :smile:
 
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