I recently ended up with a D7100 and some zoom lenses. I’ve only ever used prime lenses and tried the zooms but i just don’t like them. I’d like a long zoom for wildlife, but otherwise, I want 2 or 3 primes. For Nikon, there is NO wide angle dx prime. I didn’t know this until last week and I’m somewhat dumbfounded by this. Pentax has all these primes, Fuji and Olympus primes galore, and Nikon has plenty (some very expensive) FX primes, but no dx prime. Kinda makes me want to just sell the whole kit and move to another brand.
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Nikons lack of affordable primes. Why!!!!!?
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I think Nikon views its DX line as its soccer mom cameras and has a limited selection of primes. They do offer a 10.5mm fisheye, a 35mm, and 40mm and 85mm macros.
Nikon doesn't make that many primes for DX nor even good zoom for DX. That's why it's a cropped sensor camera. Fuji, Olympus aren't cropped sensor cameras. They simply have small sensors.
Yea I guess. It pisses me off! I think it’s more sensible for me to just move up to FX to not have to deal with all this bull shit crop sensor annoyance and lack of options.
Small sensors and cropped sensors are the same. Don't quite understand your statement.
In the mean time you can buy FX lenses and use them on a DX camera.
I do not see a problem. One can use 35mm camera lenses and one can buy both new and used lenses.
Nikon makes a 35mm and 40mm macro prime lens.
For wider than 35mm, why not look at the 10-20mm, 10-24mm or 12-24mm zoom lenses? Or maybe check out the ones from the third party manufacturers. Some of them can be quite good. I know you said you don't like zooms, but you could just tape the zoom down and use it as a prime. Really, most manufacturers don't make wide angle prime lenses for crop sensor formats anymore, it's not just Nikon. And if they do, they're usually no better than the wide angle zooms everyone has in the 10-20mm range. If you're so concerned with image quality that you HAVE to have prime lenses (despite how far zoom lens technology has come in recent years), then get something in their FX pro format. That's where all of their top of the line lenses are. You pay more, but you get more. And not just more quality, but more selection. Pentax only has one full frame digital camera, and it's a fairly recent offering. So they've had decades to devote their entire R&D staff to crop sensor camera and lenses. It's only natural they'd have more selection. I don't thing Fuji or Olympus have any, so if they're ever going to release a prime lens, it'll be for their crop sensor cameras. Nikon, on the other hand, isn't going to cannibalize the sales of their top tier models by giving you all of the quality and options of their flagship, professional camera systems at lower, hobbyist prices. They're going to devote the majority of their time developing top of the line glass for their top of the line, line, and developing budget glass for their budget line. And if you can produce a zoom for the same price as a prime and have very comparable specs, then why mess with making a prime?
For wider than 35mm, why not look at the 10-20mm, 10-24mm or 12-24mm zoom lenses? Or maybe check out the ones from the third party manufacturers. Some of them can be quite good. I know you said you don't like zooms, but you could just tape the zoom down and use it as a prime. Really, most manufacturers don't make wide angle prime lenses for crop sensor formats anymore, it's not just Nikon. And if they do, they're usually no better than the wide angle zooms everyone has in the 10-20mm range. If you're so concerned with image quality that you HAVE to have prime lenses (despite how far zoom lens technology has come in recent years), then get something in their FX pro format. That's where all of their top of the line lenses are. You pay more, but you get more. And not just more quality, but more selection. Pentax only has one full frame digital camera, and it's a fairly recent offering. So they've had decades to devote their entire R&D staff to crop sensor camera and lenses. It's only natural they'd have more selection. I don't thing Fuji or Olympus have any, so if they're ever going to release a prime lens, it'll be for their crop sensor cameras. Nikon, on the other hand, isn't going to cannibalize the sales of their top tier models by giving you all of the quality and options of their flagship, professional camera systems at lower, hobbyist prices. They're going to devote the majority of their time developing top of the line glass for their top of the line, line, and developing budget glass for their budget line. And if you can produce a zoom for the same price as a prime and have very comparable specs, then why mess with making a prime?
We here at APUG and we do know that cameras come in different format from the tiny disc camera to 8x10 and larger. Nobody ever called a camera a crop because they all come with lens designed for their format. The crop come about when Nikon (and Canon) decided to make DSLR's that use lenses designed for the 35mm format but yet the sensors are smaller thus they became cropped sensor camera. Even if today Nikon made a number of lenses for the DX format but the lens mount and lens flange distance were the same one that were used for the 35mm format. Fuji and Olympus were designed with their own lenses that cover the format and just enough for the format. There is no extra coverage to crop.
A crop sensor refers to a sensor smaller than 24x36. The rest is fiction.
So what do you call a sensor that is bigger than 24x36mm?
mporter012, How wide is 'wide' that you're looking for? And have you considered the third party options?
Medium or large format?
"Small Sensor" - Small form factor sensors in a system designed from the ground up to deal with lenses that have an image circle suitable to the capture area.
"Crop Sensor" - A sensor which is smaller than expected for (part) of the lens lineup usable by the system.
Seems to make sense to me at least.
Medium or large format?
"Small Sensor" - Small form factor sensors in a system designed from the ground up to deal with lenses that have an image circle suitable to the capture area.
"Crop Sensor" - A sensor which is smaller than expected for (part) of the lens lineup usable by the system.
Seems to make sense to me at least.
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I agree with this. Canikon says 'Hey! you can use ALL your lenses with these sensors."
I just want a kit 50 1.8 equivalent.
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They call them medium format sensors though they are not as large as traditional medium format film formats (6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x9).
And so in fact they a crop also. Yet they are larger than 24x36 but not as large as the image circle for their lens system.
The reason that the camera companies started using cropped sensors was to increase their sensor yield in the face of defective sensors on the chips.
No, they are not crop sensors. They are what they are, and the marketing people call them medium format. The lens systems are designed for whatever the medium format sensor size actually is. "Crop sensor" is not a technical term. It is just vernacular for a sensor that is smaller than 24x36. You are trying to make too much of it.
I have looked into the 10-
I have. These seem to be my best options. I went and looked at some Fuji's today at my local camera store, and they simply have exactly what I want. They have the primes, they are fast, they are build really solid, they are small. The issue with Fuji is that they aren't cheap, although, what is cheap in photography?
I have. These seem to be my best options. I went and looked at some Fuji's today at my local camera store, and they simply have exactly what I want. They have the primes, they are fast, they are build really solid, they are small. The issue with Fuji is that they aren't cheap, although, what is cheap in photography?
Used film equipment that is in great operating condition.
True. I've taken full advantage of that!
Thom Hogan has been banging on Nikon to make DX primes for only the past 5 years. On and on and on he has written about this and virtually no new primes have appeared. It's a well known deficiency in Nikon's lineup.
The term that has arisen in the past year is mini medium format. That essentially means a cropped medium format, or something smaller than 6 x 4.5.
I assume by fast you mean large aperture lenses. Many Fujifilm lenses have dismally slow autofocus speeds. I have tried every Fuji camera up to the XT-1 and found the autofocus to be exceptionally slow compared to SLR speeds. Maybe the XT-2 is finally there but I have heard so many false claims by Fujifilm that I won't be fooled again.
Not as cheap as it used to be!
Nikon has a 35mm f/1.8 DX lens.
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