So what EI would you use for Tmax-400 and N+3?
So what EI would you use for Tmax-400 and N+3?
N+1 means to extend the development to lift the
highlights by one zone (VII goes to VIII).
N, N+,N-, which ever is needed, there are other
ways of achieving a specific CI than varying the
time. I can think of a few. So I wonder at the
preoccupation with time as THE variable
for arriving at the correct CI. Dan
N, N+,N-, which ever is needed, there are other
ways of achieving a specific CI than varying the
time. I can think of a few. So I wonder at the
preoccupation with time as THE variable
for arriving at the correct CI. Dan
N, N+,N-, which ever is needed, there are other
ways of achieving a specific CI than varying the
time. I can think of a few. So I wonder at the
preoccupation with time as THE variable
for arriving at the correct CI. Dan
I'll add agitation and different developers and their
dilutions to the above list of unsharp masking and
temperature control.
But looking at this list, the Zone System and its
standard method of varying development time
seems dead simple to me.
The way one works and subtle differences in EI,
grain, and resolution may favor one method of CI
control over another. Likely the founders of the ZS
had replenishable tank developers in mind. 1930s.
Now take those who use developer one-shot. An easy
matter to increase the developer's strength thereby
the processing is finished sooner. Also one-shot
allows for tweaking by way of ph adjustment.
A same developer's activity may be made
plus or minus.
One-shot or reused, a change in agitation can make
a big difference.
Now take all those + time additions and forget them.
How much is YOUR time in processing reduced? Dan
The way one works and subtle differences in EI,
grain, and resolution may favor one method of CI
control over another. Likely the founders of the ZS
had replenishable tank developers in mind. 1930s.
Now take those who use developer one-shot. An easy
matter to increase the developer's strength thereby
the processing is finished sooner. Also one-shot
allows for tweaking by way of ph adjustment.
A same developer's activity may be made
plus or minus.
One-shot or reused, a change in agitation can make
a big difference.
Now take all those + time additions and forget them.
How much is YOUR time in processing reduced? Dan
I happen not to like the look of "pushing" and do not use it except when I think the image itself is worth what I consider the "technical inadequacy" of being able to capture it on film. That said, many good and even famous documentary, news, and other low-light photographs would not have been able to be made otherwise. Pushing, therefore is a valuable, but different tool than traditional Zone System expansion. It is still applied senitometry, which, after all, is what the Zone System, BTZS, and many other systems are as well.
Fortunately, I was able to put together a scene with plenty of tonality from Zones III through VII. But, boy oh boy, I never could've imagined the amount of meticulous work that goes into actually doing the tests.
Brandon
Next time you're looking for the perfect scene, consider a Stouffer transmission step tablet. It has all the tones you need. Tape it to a window and take a picture of it. You only need one picture to get all the shutter or aperture increments. When I do a film test, I take five rolls or 4x5 frames of identical Stouffer exposures and develop them at 4, 5.5, 8, 11 and 16 minutes. The results from this test will tell you everything you need, from the right exposure for N-3 to N+3 and the exact development time to get there.
Ralph - do you take into account lens extension when you photography the Stouffer tablet?
Another approach I have used is to get the 35 mm size of step tablet, trim it to fit a camera frame and tape it into the frame of a 35 mm camera with focal plane shutter so that the film runs bteween the tablet and the pressure plate. Use it without the camera lens by using an enlarger as light source. set the head high enough so that a fairly small part of the light field falls on the film frame. You can do some eerudite calculations or you can do trial and error for several frames to find the proper exposure.
For my test, I shot Ilford Delta 100, and developed it in Kodak XTOL 1+1 for 8 minutes and 56 seconds at 68F. Agitation was three initial inversions for 5 seconds, and repeated every 30 seconds thereafter.
Here are the results from my test (straight scans, with no retouching or spotting):
Ilford Delta 100 @ 100 - Dead Link Removed
Ilford Delta 100 @ 125 - Dead Link Removed
Ilford Delta 100 @ 160 - Dead Link Removed
Ilford Delta 100 @ 200 - Dead Link Removed
I definitely achieved more shadow detail using XTOL.
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