The E series in particular have such a bad reputation as erratic or easy-breaking claptraps. Have I just gotten two unusually good Zenits? Or is it just anti-Soviet sentiment, or something else? I mean, the E is definitely basic for its time, but still exceedingly usable, and the Zenit S was definitely up to par with most of its contemporaries in the early days of the 35mm SLR... and they're all based on Leica II shutters! I just don't get it.
Zenit but also Fed, Zorki, sold outside SSSR weren't maintained like expensive german and japanese cameras...
I can say I've never had any of my Japanese SLR's serviced. EVER.
Yeah saying Zenits are like AKs, they are built to take a beating and just work - well that's fanciful thinking. I've had three Zenits - TTL, 12sd and 212K. And they all have had issues. The TTL and 12SD were delivered with porous shutters, as if they had tiny pinholes in them. And their shutters also capped. And of course the lightmeters were, well, suggestive the way a drunk is in a bar.
You won't send a Zenit to service, it will cost much more than what you paid for the camera.
Here is a site which suggests the average monthly disposable salary is 5 times more in the US than in Russia:
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Russia/United-States/Cost-of-living
If this is true it is quite likely the situation was similarly 5:1 in the era of the Soviet Union.
So they had to make a camera that cost 1/5 th of the price of cameras sold in the US.
From that point of view it is hardly surprising that they were not as sophisticated as cameras produced in the West.
I have had a few Zenits from the 3M to the 122 but these days most Western produced SLRs can be bought for a fraction of their original cost and present better value.
Soviet manufacturing, immune from competition and import penetration may have followed the older quality model of replacement.
was comparing the Fed and Zorki with the equivalent mechanically wise of which they are derivated, Leica II/III, which in japanese were the Nicca and Canon RF. Next mechanical generation of japanese cameras, their early SLR of Pentax, Miranda, etc, need some servicing after a while/lot of usage too, like a poor Zenit.
Buyers of expensive stuff used to do service in case of need, users of cheap soviet stuff in Western Europe used to discard in case of a malfunction.
Here I hold two japaneses, one fixed one to do. A Spotmatic I got for almost nothing because it was stuck with curtains moving only occasionnally, I opened it and it was the old lubricant, it took some time but it's now working nice at all speeds. A Miranda I got for nothing the other day, I ran a test roll and it's banding at low speeds plus the mirror is randomely erratic (had to unscrew the lens and lower it with the finger for 1/3 of the 36 exp of the roll), will fix it when I'll have some time.
a simple google search: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=spotmatic+repair
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you got cameras that were not kept well and had already issues. Pinholes in curtains are common on old rangefinders, but not on SLR with instant mirror return, so something has been wrong long time ago. Lightmeters problems are typically related corrosion somewhere. Otherwise the Zenit is build around a single block of aluminium cast, it's structurally very solid, for instance shutter can go wrong after a wrong manipulation with just two fingers (set shutter before cocking) but won't be affected if you drop the camera or drive over it with a car.
we can play i game, you bring links documenting Zenit problems, and I bring links documenting Canon, Nikkon, Pentax problems. For instance at random, Nikkon FM and lightmeter:
https://www.photo.net/discuss/threads/nikon-fm-faulty-light-meter.447701/
an issue on a Zenit and people "oh it's crap", a problem on a Nikkon or Canon or Pentax and "I brought it to service and it's now working. Good camera" .... You won't send a Zenit to service, it will cost much more than what you paid for the camera.
Even then they were seen as the thing you got only if you had to have a new camera and couldn't afford anything else.
Trying to re-write history that they actually were good is just that.
This is really an inappropriate metric.If they didn't they would have been used by professional photographers all over the world. But for some reason they instead used Nikon, Canon, Pentax etc.
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-) What is wrong with marketing a SLR for people who cannot or want not to spent the amount of money other manufacturers asked?
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The reality is [the Zenits] just suck compared to what was being manufactured in Japan and elsewhere. If they didn't they would have been used by professional photographers all over the world. But for some reason they instead used Nikon, Canon, Pentax etc. If Zenits were any good those would have been used.
Not all press photographers could afford "Nikon, Canon, Pentax etc." , or even had no access to them at all.
Many used Praktikas, Pentacon Sixes and... Zenits.
But above you reasoned them not being good because not not being bought.
And buying something by lack of choice does not necessarily mean it is bad.
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