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pendant: heal thy self and look to who is "takling..."
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"pendant"? If you stop being a pendant are you then a de-pendant?
 

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I never take too long; It's always just the right amount of time to get the shots I want. If that means taking a day to get the shot I want, that's just the right amount of time it takes. Anyone who doesn't take photographs, that tells me how to take photographs, is worth ignoring about that subject.
 

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Which is why I never go out shooting with any one else. That does not include others who suffer the same ailment of shooting film. I've also been accused of being to fussy about printing my negatives, which were shot taking to long.
 

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I always photograph alone. It's not unusual for me to stand for nearly an hour waiting for everything to come together.
 

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I've got a photo-hobbyist friend who I go out shooting with on occasion. He swears by digital and his 40D, but he has a good eye and really enjoys what he does. He is generally patient when I lug out my 4x5 and set that up (more than anything, I think he's intrigued by watching me use the thing), but I find having anyone else with me when I'm shooting is a distraction. I'm focused on not making them wait too long or not making them stop too often, or maintain some degree of conversation, so I've figured out that I need to be alone when I'm doing more serious work.

I did get my friend to concede, though, that he doesn't want to use a 4x5 because he's afraid he'll like it too much :smile: Which is step one. I'll convert him eventually...
 

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The owner of the studio I first worked for was so cheap, he would send me alone, without an assistant, to shoot corporate heads and I became very adept at working very quickly, as these shots were always environmental...that is in their office. I developed a reputation for good work done with very little wasted time. Then I ran into Mr. Big, the CEO of NorCal Insurance and in fact and by reputation, a real PIA. He was seated at his desk, surrounded by his junior officers and VP's when he snapped, "is this going to take much longer?" "YES", I snapped back and at that moment I finally got the expression that made the portrait. The look of anger, arrogance and impatience, summed up his personality to a TEE and when he received the pictures, he really liked the portrait and I never had another problem with him. The point is, tell the truth and don't get intimidated. After all, most of you are men and are expected to be frank. Imagine how shocking my response was, coming from a mere woman, especially in the early 60's. Thank God times have at least changed a little. Thanks Annie but I was here first.
Denise Libby
 

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Snow photography is for the young and the touched-in-the-head. I ain't twenty anymore. And, contrary to popular belief, I ain't that touched in the head.

We had a wonderful blizzard here in Boston the other night (I'm guessing the same one that many of you East Cost folk are referring to). Around midnight, I buttoned up my winter gear, threw my monorail over my shoulder and headed out. 5 hours and 12 sheets of film later, I got home with a sore back and icicles hanging from my eyebrows, but it was an amazing experience; well worth it.

Then again, I'm 21 years old :smile:
 

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Denise, that is a great story! You're an example to any who might find themselves daunted and in need of being reminded of what can be done with talent, ability, guts and grit.
 

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The owner of the studio I first worked for was so cheap, he would send me alone, without an assistant, to shoot corporate heads and I became very adept at working very quickly, as these shots were always environmental...that is in their office. I developed a reputation for good work done with very little wasted time. Then I ran into Mr. Big, the CEO of NorCal Insurance and in fact and by reputation, a real PIA. He was seated at his desk, surrounded by his junior officers and VP's when he snapped, "is this going to take much longer?" "YES", I snapped back and at that moment I finally got the expression that made the portrait. The look of anger, arrogance and impatience, summed up his personality to a TEE and when he received the pictures, he really liked the portrait and I never had another problem with him. The point is, tell the truth and don't get intimidated. After all, most of you are men and are expected to be frank. Imagine how shocking my response was, coming from a mere woman, especially in the early 60's. Thank God times have at least changed a little. Thanks Annie but I was here first.
Denise Libby

Nick Nickson teaches an advanced view camera class at my school (MassArt). I was talking to an upperclassman who had taken his class, and she was very offended when on the first day he said, very bluntly, "If you want to be a photographer, you've got to have balls!"

Well just cause you're a girl don't mean you can't have no balls! Cool story.

(Gramatical comment: Hows my triple-negative working?)
 

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After all, most of you are men and are expected to be frank. Imagine how shocking my response was, coming from a mere woman, especially in the early 60's. Thank God times have at least changed a little. Thanks Annie but I was here first.
Denise Libby

Give 'em hell, Denise! Take no prisoners!
 

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Conversely, I sometimes want to tell my (digital shooting) friends to SLOW DOWN. I'd say 20-25 mins is typical and twice that NOT unusual. :smile:
 

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We had a wonderful blizzard here in Boston the other night (I'm guessing the same one that many of you East Cost folk are referring to). Around midnight, I buttoned up my winter gear, threw my monorail over my shoulder and headed out. 5 hours and 12 sheets of film later, I got home with a sore back and icicles hanging from my eyebrows, but it was an amazing experience; well worth it.

Then again, I'm 21 years old :smile:

To be slightly off-topic (as if the thread hasn't already wandered off), do you cover your camera with anything when you're out in the snow? I haven't done this myself more out of concern for the gear in bad weather than for myself. I'm about to go out now, though. Now it is sunny and I am hoping that the sidewalks on the Longfellow bridge have been cleared.
 

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To be slightly off-topic (as if the thread hasn't already wandered off), do you cover your camera with anything when you're out in the snow? I haven't done this myself more out of concern for the gear in bad weather than for myself. I'm about to go out now, though. Now it is sunny and I am hoping that the sidewalks on the Longfellow bridge have been cleared.

I just hold my camera "lens away from the snow" while being out in the storm so I don't have snow buildup on the filter/lens. I almost wiped out a couple times, so that is more a concern than snow/moisture. I have an ability to fall and save the (coffee,camera) at my body's potential expense.

Part of the appeal of a speed graphic is it's something cheap and functional for taking out in the snow. If I totally destroyed it, $200 could buy another, and that's the price of a single very cheap lens for 35mm. Chances are, nothing bad will happen to the speed from the weather as it's mostly pleather, vinyl, and aluminum.
 

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I do not like others to accompany when shooting as many times I will just sit in the environment, listening and looking before I start. How long is too long? If you come up with an answer then you probably haven't spent long enough. I usually stop when my feet hurt, or freezing, or no more film. How long do you wait for subject matter to evolve in one place? Sometimes it never happens. If accompanying me please bring a book "War and Peace" would be appropriate, and please don't talk to me, or ask to look at the ground glass and then say "Hey, it's upside down"
 

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To be slightly off-topic (as if the thread hasn't already wandered off), do you cover your camera with anything when you're out in the snow? I haven't done this myself more out of concern for the gear in bad weather than for myself. I'm about to go out now, though. Now it is sunny and I am hoping that the sidewalks on the Longfellow bridge have been cleared.

I was hesitant to take it out in the snow without protection, but I did anyway. I tried building a rainshell out of trashbags once, but that was too restrictive for my camera movements (probably my fault for making it too tight), so I wound up tearing it off halfway through the night. I was admittedly nervous when snow started building up around the lens, but when I got home I was just sure (as I always do whenever it gets slightly wet) to take everything apart and let it dry by the heater overnight. I don't think I'd do this if I had a more expensive lens, but I don't necessarily mind with my cheap Ilex.

The hardest part of actually shooting was keeping snow and ice from building up on the lens. Several exposures were ~10 minutes, so even though I'd clear it beforehand, halfway through the exposure it was building up. I found myself blowing on the lens to at least try to get the loose snow off. Haven't processed that film yet, so not sure if it had a negative effect or not.

The next day my shutter was acting a bit funky. I had to cock it, press the shutter release, then fiddle with the cocking lever to get the shutter to fire. A few hours later, it was fine (probably just still a little wet inside). I also had water inbetween my GG and Fresnel, but I just took them apart and let them dry.

I think the only real concern with getting these cameras wet would be (a) rust and (b) getting the inside of the bellows wet, where (at least on mine) it doesn't appear to be water-resistant. But, I think as long as you immediately dry it when you get home it should be fine. In the future, I plan on using a blow drier and a can of compressed air to dry it out before letting it sit overnight.

When I get my Crown Graphic, I think that and my Ilex 150mm will become my designated "poor weather" setup.
 

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Here's my snow results, at least some of them. Still got another sheet needing to process. mfratt; cool pix of your cam all covered in snow! I was only doing handheld exposure, so I didn't have to leave my speed graphic in one place quite so long.

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I love the effect snow has when it builds up on the side of things like that. I think your second photo is the strongest, but they're all really nice. Can't wait to get around to processing what I've shot (need to buy some more chemistry).
 
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