Your one choice for Pl/Pd prints

[donbga]

Where do you get this paper? Is it white or cream colored?

Jorge,

Beinfang 360 is a drawing vellum and I've only seen it in withe. I comes in pads of various sizes. Google for it. Pearl Art supply is one source.

Don Bryant

 

[Shinnya]

Looks like it is either Platine or COT320...

I have been printing Gum over Pt/Pd on Artistico Extra White. I also make straight Pd prints on them too. I like it very much so far.

I sometimes print on the back side of the paper on AEW or even Platine. Though I cannot be definitive since I have not done that much. But sometimes those "wires" get in the way of images. I rather see the texture of paper than "wires."

I want to try Vellum paper and Beinfang 360. Beinfang is Lois Conner's paper which I have seen some prints of. I have tried it with cyanotype and vandyke, and it is very delicate when it is wet. I have thicker vellum paper sitting in my drawer...

I sometimes wonder why people like Platine so much... Any thought?

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi

 

[Kerik]

Bienfang 360

Smooth as a baby's bottom.

While this paper is OK, it's a little difficult to work with when making larger prints. As an alternative, try Clearprint 100% Rag Drafting Vellum or Staedtler Mars 100% Rag Translucent Vellum. They are also very smooth, give incredible DMAX and have much better wet strength than Bienfang. I also find they give a warmer image tone than Bienfang, although they are all white papers.

 

[Dave Wooten]

Hi Kerik,

I m remembering we used Fabriano and Cot 320 in your Gum over Platinum class, those results were quite nice....any updates or new info.....thanks for the tip on the Clearpoint rag...

Dave in Vegas

 

[Kerik]

Hi Kerik,

I m remembering we used Fabriano and Cot 320 in your Gum over Platinum class, those results were quite nice....any updates or new info.....thanks for the tip on the Clearpoint rag...

Dave in Vegas

Dave,

Too much Moose Drool has clouded your memory a bit... We used Fabriano Artistico Extra White and Rives BFK 280 GSM white. COT 320 is not a good choice for gumover due to registration issues. Plus, it's about 5x the price of Fabriano. I am still using those 2 papers for gumover; usually Fabriano. Whatman's watercolor and Whatman's printmaking also work well for gumover, but they are much harder to find. For a while they were no longer available in the US, then I heard they were again, although I haven't confirmed that myself. I've still got about 100 full sheets in stock.

 

[Dave Wooten]

Thanks Kerik for the clarification, some one else took notes for me and I am having trouble deciphering, I was sure it would be everclear.

 

[Jeremy]

I want to try Vellum paper and Beinfang 360. Beinfang is Lois Conner's paper which I have seen some prints of. I have tried it with cyanotype and vandyke, and it is very delicate when it is wet. I have thicker vellum paper sitting in my drawer...

On advice from Clay, when working with vellum paper tape it down and coat the entire sheet. This greatly helps with the "potato chip curl" that it gets when you're coating it.

 

[CraigK]

Thanks for the alternative to Bienfang Kerik.

I love the look but you are right, it is a royal pain in the bottom when it is wet....very fragile.

It is however, a darn good paper for cyanotype, salted paper, van dyke brown, kallitype and pt/pd. In workshops I find that students are able to coat Bienfang right off the hop much better than just about any paper.

I will look into the others that you mentioned.

 

[Jeremy]

The clearprint can be bought at any artstore and is VERY cheap... matter of fact I plan on doing a bunch of cyanotypes on some when my fe am cit-green comes in.

 

[Kerik]

Also, the Clearprint comes in a heavier weight (Clearprint 1020) than the standard stuff you'll find in most art stores with is Clearprint 1000. It's even better for Big prints. It can be bought online in rolls for very cheap.

 

[eggshell]

Hi Don Bryant, thanks for the information. That's very helpful.

 

[WarEaglemtn]

When dealing with platinum the periodic table of the elements has it at Pt. There is no Pl. Palladium is designated as you have it, Pd. The closest to Pl on the table these days is Pm which is Promethium.

When dealing with labelling the process Pt/Pd will tell all what elements you are talking about.