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dsisaacs

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We went to Europe two years ago flew on British Air and United. Took 16 rolls of color and B&W. At the airport when we tried to have them hand check it they opened all the boxes and the canisters and then ran it thru the xray machine. we put the film in our checked luggage for the return trip and when we got it developed back home it was all fogged. the high spd asa 400 and 800 were worse than the asa 100 rolls.

We should have had the film processed in europe and jsut not worried about the expense.
 

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dsisaacs said:
we put the film in our checked luggage for the return trip and when we got it developed back home it was all fogged. the high spd asa 400 and 800 were worse than the asa 100 rolls.

Putting your film in checked luggage is the worst thing you can do; the xray machines are different from those use for hand carried luggage, and much more destructive as you found out. Next time, just hand carry it.
 

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roteague said:
Putting your film in checked luggage is the worst thing you can do; the xray machines are different from those use for hand carried luggage, and much more destructive as you found out. Next time, just hand carry it.

That's right. But what do I do when my request for a hand-search is denied and I have to obey to the authority while going through the inspection with my carry-on luggage? I hear some people say, if you submit your film separately before walking through the detector, they will check it without scanning, but I don't get that kind of luck when I travel abroad.

My film, 400 ASA survived at the airport in Istanbul less than two years ago, but I got really concerned when I had to give up my rights and let the inspection guys scan it twice. I understand that they're extremely alert because that was only a couple of months after terrorism took place. But what was really scary for me was when I saw them turning up the level of scanning to see what it was without asking me.
 

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firecracker said:
That's right. But what do I do when my request for a hand-search is denied and I have to obey to the authority while going through the inspection with my carry-on luggage? I hear some people say, if you submit your film separately before walking through the detector, they will check it without scanning, but I don't get that kind of luck when I travel abroad.

Every country is different of course, but in the US you have a right to have your film hand inspected; if the inspector refuses, ask to see his or her supervisor. But, first try to make it easy for the inspector; remember they don't want to waste time with you. If you are carrying 35mm, remove the film from the boxes, and put them in a plastic bag.

If I'm carrying 400 ASA or lower, I don't even bother; I've run my film through the carry on inspection numerious times, with no problems.
 

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roteague said:
Every country is different of course, but in the US you have a right to have your film hand inspected; if the inspector refuses, ask to see his or her supervisor. But, first try to make it easy for the inspector; remember they don't want to waste time with you. If you are carrying 35mm, remove the film from the boxes, and put them in a plastic bag.

Which, I did. Sometimes with or without a x-ray protection bag. But in situations like where by the time you reach that point of inspection, you're shoe-less and standing without your belt on so you're holding up your pants with your hand, and you look behind you, there's a long line and that makes you real conscious about how not to waste anyone's time there, and then your request for a hand-search is being denied completely, what will you do?

This is not hypothetical, but often true even a few years back in the U.S., where I once shared a moment of fear with a 80 year-old(or very old) woman who's frightened by the security force and we both went speechless.

And a very similar approach has been taken by the security forces at the airports in some other countries as well ever since.

Also, at that time in the U.S., my friends all warned me not to even try to bring any film and think I could get passed without any damage. Indeed, my friends had just had a bunch of undeveloped film rolls mostly 400 ASA all baked at the airport by the x-ray machine at the inspection for his carry-on luggage. So, I got very skeptical.

By the way, Istanbul in early 2004 was, continuing from my past post, due to the previous terror attack, just as hastle as any major cities in the U.S. as I remember of. That's what I wanted to say.

But my focus is overseas(outside the U.S.), where your common knowledge doesn't apply and you may not practice your rights. How do you fellow film photographers get by and bring their film safe home from the countries that are rough on them? Is is just that FedEx and its affiliates do the job? But they are often not in any convenient locations outside the U.S. and the most of the cities abroad.

How about traveling to the Middle East? For instance, to fly in and out of Israel, which I'm planning to do in the near future for my photography for the first time, what should I be prepared for?

Sorry to drag this issue a bit, but if anyone could start posting their replies with their experiences with more specific details(location/airport, year, situation, etc), that would be wonderful. Doesn't have to be real specific though as long as others can get a good sense of what it is like and be able to clarify the uncertainty a bit at each location.
 

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Actually, I travel every year out of the US. Mostly to Australia, although I have gone to Jordan and Europe as well in the past few years. X-ray machines for hand carried luggage, in most developed countries (including Jordan) are no problem; the lead lined bags are a waste of money. If in doubt, use FedEx.
 

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If you're traveling to or from London by Eurostar be carefull with highspeed film. They will not authorize handinspections, and your film will go trough the scanner. I personally have had no problems with it, the film got through it fine with no ill effects.
 

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I've travelled quite a bit (as you do when you go to and from New Zealand), and even films that have been back and forth have never suffered any ill-effects.

Travelling round Europe, the film always goes through the handcarry scanners, and never had a problem either. I used to carry a small 35mm on business trips (Minox 35GT), and sometimes the film in that camera had 10-15 trips through the handcarry scanners, and still no problems.

XRay scanning of handcarry baggage has been used in airports for years in Europe, and very few people have experienced problems.

If in spite of the overwhelming practical evidence, if you are still worried, forget about saving a few dollars/euros and purchase the film and develop it locally.

Paul
 

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Just wanted to let everyone know that I didn't have any problems taking the film through security. I asked for a hand inspection every time and I was never given a problem with the unmarked bulk film cannisters. They just want you to take the film out of the boxes they are sold in.
Ara
 
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