would you give your life to photography?

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it seems almost all great artists, revolutionaries, teachers, etc. all have one thing in common -that they give the vast vast majority of their life, thought and energy for their cause whether it is an imense lack of sleep, experimenting with drugs to alter perceptions of the mind, or put themselves in dangerous circumstances.

If I think of a truly driven photographer, I do not think primarily of behavior such as that above but rather of someone like Annie Leibovitz, whose extreme single-mindedness has certainly paid dividends in career terms. There are indeed people who lock themselves away and practise various artistic disciplines in a highly obsessive way - these people are virtually certain to be completely indifferent to what anyone else thinks and, as someone else has already remarked, are unlikely to respond to a thread on APUG (or even look at APUG, or communicate with anyone). These people have a perfect right to do whatever they want - it is my personal belief, however, that extreme obsession does not lead to the highest possible artistic achievement, having a life is more important. but on the other hand in the field of hard news, for example, it takes vast dedication if not obsession to be a James Nachtwey.
 

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Well, you know the Georges Brassens song? "Mourir pour des idées, d'accord, mais de mort lente..."

He wrote about dying for ideas, which he was willing to do, but very slowly. That applies to art, too.
 

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i'm looking for the 1% who would or at least have at some point in their life (even if it was for a short time) given themselves to photography to do as it will to their emotional, physical or financial state.

In my case it was having a dream of paddling the coast of BC, and taking my 4x5 gear to photograph with. It may have stayed a dream but that and more was almost taken away when I was struck in the back by a log in a logging accident. Being strapped to a back board and flown off the mountain by helicopter introduced me to whole new worlds of pain, which I almost happily endured as being numb would have been far worse. It also introduced into my young mind the idea that everything can be taken away in a heartbeat, and made me cast my mind into the future where I didn't want to be an old man bitter of all he had planned, but had not done.

Luckily my wife signed on 100% to my dream, and we spent several years gathering paddling equipment and experience. In fact it was her, who after we both got laid off of our seasonal jobs suggested we leave on our trip in late October rather than in the spring, because what money we had was being wasted on things like rent and bills. Everything we had was put into storage, the last of our money was put towards film and food for the trip, and we pushed off the beach with a 25 knot freezing wind as well as family and friends at our backs.

Living a dream is a strange thing because it gains so much momentum that it creates a life of it's own, and literally drags you along in its wake. It's also easier before carreers, kids or mortgages. At least that's the way it was for us...I can't imagine how it would be for the Edward Weston's of this world where their dream carries them through their entire adult lives...

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i'm looking for the 1% who would or at least have at some point in their life (even if it was for a short time) given themselves to photography to do as it will to their emotional, physical or financial state.

before i had the responsibilities of a family and i was on my own
i left a very good job for various reasons, and for a year with no income
lived as a "starving artist" in a industrial building with a few other folks.
i had a great time (until i totally ran out of money) "living on the edge" ...
and remnants of that can be seen in the photographs i make today ..

i used to shoot with reckless abandon and i still try to when i can ...
 
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I sort of value "activism" (which doesn't necessarily mean political) more than anything else to devote myself for the good cause, and I take my camera when I'm on the go. And in order to do that (and continue to do that), I can't secure myself too much with a steady job and/or a steady girl friend, etc.
 
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roger, patrick, david...

i think those comments are unnecessary and unwarranted on this thread. there's already been a few people who have at one point or another dropped everything in their lives to follow a photography addiction in fighter jets and on a canoe through the secluded northwest of BC in search of kicks and to take their level of photography to new heights. i think that's "proof" enough that these people exist and are willing to post on APUG. they don't have to live their whole life in and through photography, but i wanted to start this thread for people to tell their stories of how they went homeless for a month to get truly captivating stories of life on the streets or lived in a shack at the top of a mountain in the rockies to get photos no one else would have -stuff like that, which was risking their well-being for the sake of their art.


murray....those are impressive photos of your trip and a truly great story. does your wife shoot as well or did she come along for the adventure?

photo engineer...what was your role in those photos? did you get a chance to go along for the ride or were you a pilot? that one shot in your gallery with the half dozen jets diving down (framed by a part of your jet) is one in a million.
 

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roger, patrick, david...

i think those comments are unnecessary and unwarranted on this thread.

Hehehe. You'll find that any post you start here on APUG will flail uncontrollably in any and all directions...trying to keep APUG'ers on topic is like trying to herd cats :smile:

murray....those are impressive photos of your trip and a truly great story. does your wife shoot as well or did she come along for the adventure?

Thanks.

She would stay in or near camp while I went photographing and write letters to her Mom about what we were doing, what we had seen, and how she was feeling. There's hundreds of pages of hand written material there...a real gold mine to flesh out in some way in the future!

Murray
 

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What's your dream?

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Now, some can go further out on a limb than others.

Below are two pics of my wife at an escarpment in South Australia. The really daring ones dangle their feet off the edge.

The "wimps" (like me) take pictures of others who do not suffer from vertigo. :surprised:
 

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What's your dream?

Murrray;

You read mine.

OK, here goes;

A couple hundred feet of 35mm film in a custom built auto winder camera for you to use while in a glass capped cruise missile programmed to fly below mountain top level from the Arctic Ocean to Tearra Del Fuego along the length of the Rocky and Andean Mountain chains.

Or, then again, to feel you've attempted to drop enough pebbles into the pool of photographic knowledge that you think the ripples will be expanding and interacting with each other long after you've gone.

Good luck with the first one Ron, but I think you're well on your way to seeing the second one through :smile:

Murray
 

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Murray;

I too like #1, and have seen a lot of footage shot from missiles doing some of what you describe. It is awesome. The public rarely sees the thousands of feet of film or tape (gag) that exist from every missile shot.

I hope I can achieve #2.

PE
 

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Professional photographers today are hard pressed guys, pressed to make no mistake decisions all the time. It is hard to find here on internet pro-photog (except wedding guys) and then ask to contribute. The same is with medical doctors and all other professionals.

As long time PJ just recently I had to make a decision, the most dangerous:
At the meeting room of one large photo agency, I am directed how to shoot war in Iraqi. It was clear to me they expect not to see the war as is, otherwise I am dead. I just spat on the floor, told them I am a photographer, and quit PJ for ever. It is simple dead. It was some kind of cumulative respond to so many speculations around photography. I had to pay my bills tomorrow, and I did. Now I am switching my photography to portrait and studio, still life and landscape, and adapting my basement. Fortunately I am very well weaponed and for this kind of work and getting more and more customers.

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ain't nothing wrong with switchin' you direction in photography to make you bread, i'd just be more curious to see what your story would be after shooting the war in iraq. you probably made the right decision for your life's sake anyway (and family and friends). it was probably the rational thing to do.
 

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There was a time in my past that I was driven to photograph. Many times I put myself in situations a rational person would not think of. There was something that drove me. My purpose was to get the shot. I would be in that zone where my total attention was through the viewfinder, like a distant voyeur no one could see. I lived ate and slept photography. Money was not a motivation and my checkbook showed it. I never sought fame or glory. It was very, very, personal and any sacrifices I made did not matter. I was moving through life with blinders on, pushing myself day in and day out for the sake of my art. Then one day I meet my future wife, started a family, relocated and my priorities changed, I guess I brought that same devotion and willingness to sacrifice to my wife and children. I have no regrets. For most people their priorities change over time. For some they stay in that zone of creativity. And for a few that creativity earns them a reputation as true artists. Without sacrifice there is no value.
 

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I guess I have given my life to photography. Apart from the usual staying alive things photography is the principle serious activity for my waking hours. I started as a part time practitioner in 1969 and went full time in 1992.

Photography is not work and it isn't play but it surely consumes my hours, days, and years just the same. And it is time that I will not get over. Unless the Buddists are right and I'm due for a bit of reincarnation; but as what? I don't want to know.
 
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I own a small pro lab in Bondi Australia called The Lighthouse.
Im 24 years old and work 7 days a week atleast 16 hours a day.
I encourage people on a daily basis to try new film and experiment
even if it comes at my own personal expense.

Its Analog photography, Ide say I've given my life so far to it and I intend to continue doing so. Why? because I love it!!!!

~Steve Frizza
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(02) 9365 6063
mob: 0415 677 522
e Steve@thelighthousebps.com.au
 

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I spend every moment thinking about photography. I see thing, and think about lighting and composition. I've snuck into buildings once or twice to take photos with my friends.
 
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