I saw several online post on Earth Day about the environmental consequences of shooting film. On the other hand, not enough people care about film to actually ban it. Environmental regulations may drive costs up high enough to put smaller manufacturers and labs out of business on the other hand.
That's funny.I'll put that on my list of things to worry about. There is still a little room left, way down here at the bottom.
I am always kind of Shocked/Surprised...and i should not be..... at how often people ask "Can you still buy film."I can promise you, no politician has film on their radar. The vast majority of people don't even know you can still buy film.
I did not know thatDon't bring to attention that avgas is still leaded.
Yeah.Without new film cameras being made, films existence will eventually be irrelevant.
What if the government decides that film is too wasteful? All those chemicals and everything polluting the environment. Would you support the cancellation of film like fossil fuels will be stopped in automobiles? What should we do to protect our hobby?
That's funny.
I am always kind of Shocked/Surprised...and i should not be..... at how often people ask "Can you still buy film."
No reason most people in the world would think it is still made.
I get the Same/Similar reaction about vacuum tubes.
I did not know that
Why is that.?
Yeah.
It does seem that, Sooner or Later, those two points are going to cross.
Unavoidable i would imagine.
Oh Wow.......I thought that had all been figured out a long time ago.Leaded fuel runs much smoother than unleaded. Unleaded gas can lead to engine knocks or failure to combust. If your driving in a car that's fine, car mumbles a bit and you don't even notice. In an aircraft not so much, engine goes and you go with it.
Oh Wow.......I thought that had all been figured out a long time ago.
I guess the gas companies never found a good substitute for ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,is it Tetraethyl.?
Germany was dying to get their hands on that stuff in WW2.
Leaded fuel runs much smoother than unleaded. Unleaded gas can lead to engine knocks or failure to combust. If your driving in a car that's fine, car mumbles a bit and you don't even notice. In an aircraft not so much, engine goes and you go with it.
I'm glad you are so certain of what will happen and be available in the future.At some point it will happened. By the same time cows will be banned as another big source of pollution.
Do you know they already print fake food by 3D printer. So, it is closer than many of you think.
But, I'm holding to my film cameras. Once ban will happened, easy convertion to digital via global shutter will became widely availible.
I'm going to like it. I'm into film cameras mostly by their look by now, not because of film.
Lead in fuel slows combustion under high compression. The solution is lower compression-ratio engines, like modern automobiles. Airplane engines are pretty rudimentary, like an old VW beetle's. In fact, some kit planes use beetle engines.Leaded fuel runs much smoother than unleaded. Unleaded gas can lead to engine knocks or failure to combust. If your driving in a car that's fine, car mumbles a bit and you don't even notice. In an aircraft not so much, engine goes and you go with it.
You may be right but personally I am more concerned about the gremlin on the wing tearing at the engine cowling. That Canadian can't be on everybody's plane. Hell we can't even rely on Dana Andrews whom I thought was exceptional given his experience was confined to single engine fighters in WWII
A bit of lead never did me any harm as I hope is now obvious
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Lead in fuel slows combustion under high compression. The solution is lower compression-ratio engines, like modern automobiles. Airplane engines are pretty rudimentary, like an old VW beetle's. In fact, some kit planes use beetle engines.
I'm glad you are so certain of what will happen and be available in the future.
Not too sure why anyone would want to go to the bother to convert an M3 to digital. There are already digital Leicas available and adapters to use Leica lenses on other digital camera bodies. The only advantage of a conversion is keeping the optical viewfinder and rangefinder. You'd be better off with a Fuji Xpro and get to keep the Leica in unmolested condition.Leica M3 reversible conversion is already available. With all components inside.
Before that happens I think we should see a farewell to consumer electronics. If film photography is considered bad, I only imagine what happens to manufacturing of new mobile phones or digital cameras. Or just McDonalds trash alone. Plastic water bottles.
When I restarted developing film after a few years hiatus in 2013, I did check with the water companies here that it's still OK and the official line is that B&W and colour developing chemicals for film and paper intended for home use are of no concern as their treatment plants are more than capable of dealing with them.
Without new film cameras being made, films existence will eventually be irrelevant.
WOOOOT!Fortunately, new film cameras are currently being made.
!!! exactly ! film and seltzer water cause of all that CO2I could only see film being banned in an era of heavy dictatorial censorship.
I could only see film being banned in an era of heavy dictatorial censorship.
Fortunately, new film cameras are currently being made.
The chemical use in processing film at home is negligible. The chemical use for commercial processing (such as motion picture film by the hundreds of thousands of feet--not to mention the film used for release prints) and the use for producing film might be of more troubling. Of course, the switch to digital in that filed has reduced the demand significantly. I believe the amount of water used to produce and process film that could be more of a concern.Logically you are correct but people see the word "chemical" and get scared.
If I take time to think about developing B&W film at home, I use a plastic tank and bottles which I've owned for 15 years and which will doubtlessly last another 20 years unless I am very careless. Indeed after I die they'll likely still be good and someone else. If I make up 1 litre of developer and 1 litre of fixer, which is what I typically do, they are about 80% water. The chemicals used are not especially harmful to the environment or to me, though I won't be drinking it. When I restarted developing film after a few years hiatus in 2013, I did check with the water companies here that it's still OK and the official line is that B&W and colour developing chemicals for film and paper intended for home use are of no concern as their treatment plants are more than capable of dealing with them.
But people see the word "chemical" and panic. Without thinking of all the environmental nastiness needed to bring their smart phone, tablet and television into their home.
In my experience in the USA, all the sanitary sewage treatment facility Managers would rather be roasted alive than give affirmative answer to treating home lab discharge.
It is the only way they get people to visit.Mine lets me dump it right in the treatment ponds
What if the government decides that film is too wasteful? All those chemicals and everything polluting the environment. Would you support the cancellation of film like fossil fuels will be stopped in automobiles? What should we do to protect our hobby?
So many questions already...What if the government decides that film is too wasteful? All those chemicals and everything polluting the environment. Would you support the cancellation of film like fossil fuels will be stopped in automobiles? What should we do to protect our hobby?
Whose government, yours or mine? There's more than one government.What if the government decides that film is too wasteful?"
No. I don't think it's likely. Film is now a very niche market whereas fossil fuels are ubiquitous. It would be more effective to ban the landfilling of electronic waste than to ban film. Mind you, some governments don't use fact and reason as guiding principles... I guess raw emotions are a more common currency these days.Would you support the cancellation of film like fossil fuels will be stopped in automobiles?
Man the barricades, grab the pitchforks and occupy Mobberley! One out -- all out! Keep the Red Flag flying! Up The Revolution, Comrades! Oh hang on... wrong century!What should we do to protect our hobby?
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