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Will a Valoy 2 neg carrier work on a 1c??

chip j

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I just discovered that I have a Full Frame negative carrier that came w/a Valoy 2 I bought yrs ago--I'm hoping it'll work on my 1c (which is in storage). Thanks!
 
I just discovered that my 1c carrier is "Full Frame" also-24mm x 36mm. I don't know why Full Frame carriers for Leitz are advertised--they must ALL be FF.
 
Yes, it will !

And about your second question: Leitz negative carriers give a litle more than the actual image. If you want you can include the negative borders. I think the term full frame is now used so much because of digital.

Don't forget to try out your Valoy II, they're wonderful enlargers !
 
Veloy II and Focomat Ic share many common parts -- the neg carrier and condenser in particular. Both great enlargers.

As to the negative carrier being "full frame," it is on some instances, but not all -- when I print negs shot with my SLR, for example, I can usually leave a black rim around the image pretty easily.

When printing negs shot with my M rangefinder, however, I can if the neg was shot with a 50 mm lens or longer, but shorter lenses do not -- the image is actually larger. This is because leica rangefinder lenses -- especially older ones -- are really the physical distance from the focal plane that the lens says -- so it is close to the film, meaning the image, to fill the frame, must project out at a sharper angle from the central axis of the lens.

The most extreme is my 21mm super angulon -- its rear element is only a couple of mm from the film, and its image projects out to far that, on the developed film, there is no separation between the negatives, which means when I print I am cropping off a bit all around just because it is too big for the negative carrier's hole.
 
Very interesting, summicron1. I have a Contax G 21mm that is probaly even closer to the film than your super angulon is, the Contax bodies being thinner. But I still have space between my negs.
 
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chip j said:
Very interesting, summicron1. I have a Contax G 21mm that is probaly even closer to the film than your super angulon is, the Contax bodies being thinner. But I still have space between my negs.
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You should put the lens on and put the camera on B and look from the back and see -- this SA was made in the 1950s, pretty old formula, yours is probably newer by a cupla three decades. I've had people tell me there was something wrong with my camera because this lens leaves no space between the negatives -- i just say "No, that's the lens."

Good performer for all that.
 
I had a 1967 SA that I only shot slides with, so I don't know how the negative spacing was. Read Ken Rockwell's review of the Contax 21!
 
 
I have found the holes in the Leica carriers to be all over the place, not just the holes, but the thickness as well. I always seem to have to file some out to make mine truly 'full-frame', at least enough to not drive me crazy trying to center the negative just right...I have found that once you adjust a lc for auto-focus, not to change negative carriers. The thickness does differ...
 
Thanks for the Valoy 2 info, Hilo!! I have yet to restore mine and am sure glad to find this critical info out!!!!!!
 
chip j said:
Thanks for the Valoy 2 info, Hilo!! I have yet to restore mine and am sure glad to find this critical info out!!!!!!
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You are welcome ! If you are missing anything, or want to replace something broken: I have many parts that just sit in boxes . . . the red filter is important, as it is easily modified to a filter holder for under the lens . . (this one I do not have extra).
 
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