Why would you buy expired 35mm film?

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Well I want to develop expired ektachrome as a positive for actual slide projection/ viewing, not for printing.

I've had 2004-expired Ektachrome developed as E-6 and at least one roll came out with a very pronounced pink tinge.

I had a tool colour-correct them, here's one result:

 

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I've had 2004-expired Ektachrome developed as E-6 and at least one roll came out with a very pronounced pink tinge.

I had a tool colour-correct them, here's one result:

So is the takeaway that thanks to digital you can shoot expired film. Sort of ironic don't you think?
 
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Well, that's why I said fog would be the big problem. What do you get when you reverse fog?

Maybe your film isn't too badly age fogged. Who knows.

It may be fogged, or not. It may be extremely color shifted, or not. Maybe a warming filter will help, or not. Bottom line is: test the film, starting with exposure at box speed and the standard E6 process times. You may get lucky and have usable film as-is. If not, you can try some of the suggestions above (cross processing, exposure compensation, warming filters, etc.) and see if it's salvageable.
 

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So is the takeaway that thanks to digital you can shoot expired film.

Well, FA, lots of people don't actually enlarge fresh film, so digital makes it possible for them to shoot film, too. Ain't it wacky?
 

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Well, FA, lots of people don't actually enlarge fresh film, so digital makes it possible for them to shoot film, too. Ain't it wacky?

Digital correction could still have some use, for instagram etc. But better if it can be developed properly for slide projection and scanning.
 

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If I saw a 35mm roll of Portra 160VC I would be tempted for old times sake as I loved the stuff. Other than that, I don't buy expired film.

Chances are film.purchased in date will go out of date in the fridge before it gets shot anyway.
 

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Well the negative film you can always correct in the enlarger, slide film is a bigger issue. Only filtration during exposure maybe can fix it.
 

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For me, having it processed as E6 was to determine if colour-correction would be a viable solution for this particular batch of 10 or 12 rolls of Kodak EPP 100; I decided that it's not for me because the correction made the grain more pronounced than I wanted it to be.

I had all the other rolls cross-processed and I was happy with pretty much all the results (these are from different rolls):


This one had more of a muted look with yellow tinge.

This one had more pronounced red/pink.

And here we have a more typical green cast which imo works well if you have non-green subjects/foreground to break up the "greenery".
 

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Sorry these last three were cross processed? Could you elaborate cross processing?
 

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So those images you posted were cross processed ? And that produces a negative from a slide film i guess. Will give that a try. Those pics look really good, with the color off or not. Exactly the look I'm aiming for.
 

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It is just sad that AI can mimic this imperfection too. I feel lost.
 

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It is just sad that AI can mimic this imperfection too. I feel lost.

In this regard, AI is an appliance and gives me zero personal satisfaction. Any person can submit imagery and get back impersonal, homogenized images, but it has nothing to do with experiencing the process of crafting an image and the personal satisfaction of making that image.

Convenience displaces personal growth and experience to our detriment.
 

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It is just sad that AI can mimic this imperfection too. I feel lost.
The fascination of making color negatives comes from knowing that you're making an object, and not just collecting information. This is what drives people to use film unconsciously.
We had a very long thread on this topic, but it got a bit out of hand and the thread got locked.
 
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