Why Leica, my view with new technical research

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Hello there,

Why Leica ? What makes it ?

I wanted to add a very good photograph but after 5 years , it would be lost and my post will be like a toothless woman.

Let me try to explain, when you use color film and glow light , leica makes a record where all the face , hand, arm , neck skin, muscle, bone drapery , extremelly visible .

And the final colors looks like gold and wood fire colors.

Thats why I use Leica at the first hand. No other camera brand cant match with the color and 3Dness of Leica.

Daylight is interesting. If you swithch one stop darker , you cant find any other camera makes that oil painting colors. Ultra high quality colors

Bokeh. There is more information and second photograph at the bokeh area. People get sweet mixture of film noise and lens noise together. And everything is expressionist . There is excellent colors at bokeh area and its rich and elegant like an expensive perfumme.

How 3D comes to scene,

Max Berek was a microscope designer. He sure was knowing microscope lenses tends to eliminate lots of
details might be visible. For example , a microscope must make transparent medium visible.

Today its still big race to make unvisible detail visible.

What is this unvisible detail ? Phase of the image .

Phase carries all the refraction index variations of the object plus the topology.

Microscope lenses tends to not process the phase of the image.

In 1930 , Zernike first proposed phase microscope. It was about the external area of round lens and internal , central area of lens , interlocked the two different of light from these areas on the film and makes phase visible. There is role of the shape of the lenses and their different refractive powers.

Than Leica introduced the modulation contrast microscopy at later years.

The goal of these two technologies makes the phase converted to visible image.

Leica uses wave analysis since these years to design lenses. Nikon started to do the same two years ago for camera lenses. 70 years later or more.

I think Leica 3d ness of human skin, bone drapery is hidden in somewhere at above writing.

I am not sure and may be later will be sure.

Mustafa Umut Sarac
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I don't know about color but you can't match my Stereo Realist with any Leica for 3Dness.
 

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I don't know about color but you can't match my Stereo Realist with any Leica for 3Dness.
I think you are 100% right on that one. I haven't shot with mine in years, but it certainly has a pronounced 3D look to the images when viewed in my viewer. Leica can't come close, but Zeiss and Rollei can.
 

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I don't know about color but you can't match my Stereo Realist with any Leica for 3Dness.

it depends
ifyou have a leica FGlOOLP [ beam splitter ]
you can get the same 3d as your silly wisconson/american toy.
the cows are happier in california !
 

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you cant find any other camera makes that oil painting colors. Ultra high quality colors...And everything is expressionist. There is excellent colors at bokeh area and its rich and elegant like an expensive perfumme.

The Lomography folks are making the same claim...


Image from Google Image Search.
 

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Here is an image from Berlin Philarmoniker site. Left is Simon Rattle , right is Claudio Abbado. Look at the faces.
 

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Visual examples are welcome.

Won't work on here. You have to use a special viewer or special projector with special screen and 3D glasses. I have several viewers, 3D glasses and a screen. I just need to find a projector.
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Good heavens! There is nothing magical about Leica. Or any particular camera brand for that matter. Leica deserves kudos for popularizing the compact 35mm camera and doing the legwork to keeping their system going. They make fine cameras and lenses.....and charge for them. A lot of famous photographers have used their equipment but just as many have used other brands with results that are just as good. David Burnett uses up to date Canon equipment but also catches interesting shots with a Speed Graphic mounting an Aero Ektar and has done interesting and published work with a Holga 120N. The most important equipment a photographer has is that glob of fat between his ears.
 

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Honestly I get richer/deeper colour and tonality shooting 120 in my Bronica ETR or SQ systems than I ever did using titchy 35mm in a Leica, and even then I agree with a previous poster the Zeiss lenses give more intense colour than Leica lenses.

Do yourself a favour and move up to a larger format.
 
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I use a Leica M4 because it's pretty small, though not really smaller than an FM2. I find it easier to focus a fast lens with an RF than with an SLR, and faster to prefocus vs relying on AF. If I want better tonality though my Pentax 6x7 kit creates images in which you practically want to swim. I don't care how many special editions of the APO Summicron come out, it can't touch my very old, de-yellowed 105/2.4 Super Takumar. Plus I like the Zeiss lenses for Leica anyway. They bring the goods at a price that isn't just a bad joke.
 

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My post reply wasn't to bash Leica. Hope it didn't come off that way. They certainly do deserve respect. Just a couple of years ago they released the MA, a fully mechanical 35mm RF, without a meter! That took some major nerve, and only Leica could do it and get away with it. Can you imagine Nikon building a limited run of the F2 with a plain, non metered prism? (I know, a Nikon fans dream). Precisely because Leica has kept the basic M style body in production so long it was possible to make the MA and sell it for the price they do. I have a M4-2 and it is a nice camera with a good VF/RF but honestly, my good old OM-1 suits suits my needs, is just as compact, and every Zuiko I have for it, six lenses from 24mm f2.8 to 200mm f5 would cost less than $800 to replace. I bought the M4-2 about 6 years ago as a treat for this old guy about to retire. I had always wanted a Leica M and splurged. It's a fine camera, but is certainly not sprinkled with magic photographic pixie dust.
 

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Interesting assumption about Leica Microscope and Leica Lenses. Why not. If you google Leica Rangefinder some construction gear will be returned in search result.

The M4-2 assumptions just in the post above are even more entertaining, since M4-2 is my main film camera and I get rid of OM very quick as nothing compact or to be pleased with.





Small OM body, but big camera lens flange and lens itself.
 
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To Ko.Fe.;
There is a lot of personal preference in camera selection. I just happen to like SLR viewing more. The Mirror box on a SLR is something I'll put up with to gain the features I prefer. I see you have an OM-10, a camera us OM "snobs" are practically allergic to. (but that is another post entirely) For compactness I actually do have a SLR without a mirror box, another Y. Maitani creation, the half frame Pen F, but of course you have to put up with a 18X24mm negative. For virtually no mirror box on a full frame 35mm SLR a person could seek out a Alpa 6b (if only I had unlimited funds). Alpa's are interesting cameras and are probably about the same quality as Leica.
 

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So if Leica lenses capture the phase, why do photographs using a polarizing filter on a Leica lens look just as good as without?
 
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Gregory Brooks Metzcar's Montage Luminor. All Leica photographs on film. The faces in the book have no lens-distinguishing characteristics. Is he fooling us here? Did he really yes a Nikon instead??

 

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Additional picture taken with Leica from Metzcar's book.
 

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Leica is at it's best if you just play with it, w/o shooting film. For THAT, it can't be touched!
 
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