Why is "KODAK" stamped on my film!??

[Saganich]

Adorama has a healthy supply.

 

[Bill Burk]

correction: last 5 years.

Backing paper, a rocket science that Foma mastered 50 years ago. Kodak still can’t figure it out.

Quite pathetic.

I think it happens at the atomic / electronic level. For example as the latent image degrades electrons escape everywhere else but maybe are reflected back by electrostatic ink in the Kodak imprint

 

[Dusty Negative]

nice pic

Thanks. Luckily, I was just mucking about with a speedlight, hand-holding at 1/30 and 1/15, and testing out mixing ambient and fill flash. Long story short, nothing critical was lost. I’m an amateur and didn’t lose any more money than I normally do on this hobby.

 

[Dusty Negative]

Hi Dusty Negative
I'd contact kodak alaris for the film, and I am guessing
they would like to know which stores still, inadvertently have old film stock and don't realize it.

goodluck !
John

Thanks. I’ll do so.

 

[Robert Stone]

Sell the other rolls on eBay as LOMO film and ask 3x the cost and they will sell.

This happened to me when it first was produced and all the last shots of my father were like this. He passed before I knew. It is a risk you take with film.

If your final intention is non-analog prints, it can be removed. So it’s not a total loss.

Have to be careful buying expired film from Kodak around that timeframe, they did their best to make it up to us, but there’s only so much you can do, it was the outsourced hacking paper manufacturer who used a different ink on their paper that reacted to the film.

Try not to be disheartened.

Good luck!

 

[pentaxuser]

I wonder what response Dusty Negative got from KA?

pentaxuser

 

[wyofilm]

I think it happens at the atomic / electronic level. For example as the latent image degrades electrons escape everywhere else but maybe are reflected back by electrostatic ink in the Kodak imprint

Ahhh ... I never understood how this imprinting might happen. Thanks.

 

[Dusty Negative]

I wonder what response Dusty Negative got from KA?

pentaxuser

I reached out to Photo Warehouse, they said they'd take a look at how to make it right. Totally forgot about it once Covid came to town --- the benefits of being an amateur. I'll reach out to KA.

 

[Dusty Negative]

Sell the other rolls on eBay as LOMO film and ask 3x the cost and they will sell.

This happened to me when it first was produced and all the last shots of my father were like this. He passed before I knew. It is a risk you take with film.

If your final intention is non-analog prints, it can be removed. So it’s not a total loss.

Have to be careful buying expired film from Kodak around that timeframe, they did their best to make it up to us, but there’s only so much you can do, it was the outsourced hacking paper manufacturer who used a different ink on their paper that reacted to the film.

Try not to be disheartened.

Good luck!

So sorry to hear that story. Luckily, my wife is just fine and I have many, many shots of her. Plus, I was messing around with lighting with that roll so I wasn't really expecting much out of those ten captures. Just puzzled. As an aside, I spent a few minutes trying to get rid of the ghosts in PS, but their placement is tricky. I gave up, and consigned it to history as one of my many, many 'mistake' photos. It'll be fun to see it again in ten years. Great story!

 

[Dusty Negative]

Sell the other rolls on eBay as LOMO film and ask 3x the cost and they will sell.

This happened to me when it first was produced and all the last shots of my father were like this. He passed before I knew. It is a risk you take with film.

If your final intention is non-analog prints, it can be removed. So it’s not a total loss.

Have to be careful buying expired film from Kodak around that timeframe, they did their best to make it up to us, but there’s only so much you can do, it was the outsourced hacking paper manufacturer who used a different ink on their paper that reacted to the film.

Try not to be disheartened.

Good luck!

...and, you know, I just might sell them. Why not!? "Vintage Kodak Tri-X roll comes with special electron imprints. This Special Edition was one of only a few hundred made. Collector's Item."

 

[Dusty Negative]

UPDATE:

Reached out to Kodak Alaris in Newbury Park, CA. They replaced the rolls of faulty film. Even sent me a 2020 Kodak desk calendar. I cannot be more thankful, considering this issue is now quite dated. It certainly will be just that extra little push to keep buying Tri-X. My heartfelt thanks to them!

 

[pentaxuser]

A good ending Dusty.

pentaxuser

 

[nbagno]

UPDATE:

Reached out to Kodak Alaris in Newbury Park, CA. They replaced the rolls of faulty film. Even sent me a 2020 Kodak desk calendar. I cannot be more thankful, considering this issue is now quite dated. It certainly will be just that extra little push to keep buying Tri-X. My heartfelt thanks to them!

Who still uses a desk calendar? :-D

 

[Dusty Negative]

Who still uses a desk calendar? :-D

Probably the same people who still shoot film.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Probably the same people who still shoot film.

And fountain pens

 

[Robert Stone]

...and, you know, I just might sell them. Why not!? "Vintage Kodak Tri-X roll comes with special electron imprints. This Special Edition was one of only a few hundred made. Collector's Item."

Hah!! I like that! Glad it worked out too

 

[removed account4]

DN
did they make you send your olde films back to the mothership or did they allow you to keep it for
you how experimental between the wars type photography?
I have a brass desk calendar the kind with the knobs you turn, sadly it stops at 1958.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

Who still uses a desk calendar? :-D

I do, the flip type on a plastic base. I purchase a refill every year. It never crashes, needs an update only once annually, is not susceptible to malware or EMP. The sticky notes I sometimes place on it never stop working because of operating system "upgrades." Very satisfying.

 

[MattKing]

Who still uses a desk calendar? :-D

I do, the flip type on a plastic base. I purchase a refill every year. It never crashes, needs an update only once annually, is not susceptible to malware or EMP. The sticky notes I sometimes place on it never stop working because of operating system "upgrades." Very satisfying.

A friend of mine is a very good photographer who each year puts together a calendar of her photos of the local area. It sells quite well.
One year she decided to use a new printer, who offered to supply the calendar template, while she supplied the photographs and the customized text.
The template was full of errors - months had the wrong numbers of days, or overlapped with other months.
A whole bunch of them had to be corrected and re-printed.
She thinks that she was able to keep all the problem ones out of customers' hands .

 

[Dusty Negative]

DN
did they make you send your olde films back to the mothership or did they allow you to keep it for
you how experimental between the wars type photography?
I have a brass desk calendar the kind with the knobs you turn, sadly it stops at 1958.

They stressed that the remaining two rolls must be destroyed via light exposure. They're sitting right here on my desk, "emulsion out," aka Full Commando.

 

[MattKing]

They stressed that the remaining two rolls must be destroyed via light exposure. They're sitting right here on my desk, "emulsion out," aka Full Commando.

Do they think that they are contagious ?
Are you sure they didn't just warn you not to use them in error, and recommend that they be discarded?
I use my rolls from the problematic batches to check cameras, as well as other things that are non-critical.
I've actually been fortunate and obtained useful and interesting results in what were intended to be tests. This is from a roll used to test a Brownie Hawkeye:

 

[Ai Print]

I have a fair amount of this imprint film left. I figured I would keep it for testing film backs and what not but I have been shooting a COVID piece on it lately called “Infected”.

Of course I still have good recent TMY2 in stock but it’s fun to give this otherwise damaged film a creative purpose.

 

[Dusty Negative]

Do they think that they are contagious ?
Are you sure they didn't just warn you not to use them in error, and recommend that they be discarded?
I use my rolls from the problematic batches to check cameras, as well as other things that are non-critical.
I've actually been fortunate and obtained useful and interesting results in what were intended to be tests. This is from a roll used to test a Brownie Hawkeye:
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This is a bit like "Where's Waldo?" I've been looking for the imprint for a few minutes now. Can't find them.

 

[MattKing]

This is a bit like "Where's Waldo?" I've been looking for the imprint for a few minutes now. Can't find them.

You won't - on that roll.
But another in the batch shows them.
That is/was a major part of the problem.
It is inconsistent and unpredictable.