Why is Hasselblad so overrated?

[etn]

By celebates I meant people that had never tried one. Just like the ones who say that the Leica is terrible but never touched on.

The internet is full of self-promoted "reviewers" who buy any device, unbox it, "use" it for 5 minutes - obviously without reading the manual, then post any BS about it they can think of. This insubstantial clickbait is best ignored.

 

[removed account4]

what would make a hassy and its lovely pristine optics and accessories an unworthwhile, overpriced purchase is if it is bought
and never used. cameras are made to be used and enjoyed.

 

[Arthurwg]

In other words whatever YOU think is not overpriced to you it must also NOT be overpriced for everyone else. It does not look I can explain how ridiculous your statement is. And I am NOT saying Hasselblad is overpriced, yet I can easily understand how many can think that. Price is always a relative phenomenon.

Of course you are quoting price points of some quite specific and in fact limited in long term quality models, which some would advise NOT to get, but well, when nothing but the badge will do, it makes no difference for this argument.

True, not everyone needs or wants a Hasselblad. I think you can buy a new Holga for around $35.00

 

[warden]

True, not everyone needs or wants a Hasselblad. I think you can buy a new Holga for around $35.00

The problem with $35 Holgas is they're overpriced.

 

[Chan Tran]

True, not everyone needs or wants a Hasselblad. I think you can buy a new Holga for around $35.00

I wouldn't use a Holga if it is given to me. I would try to sell it for money even $5 is more than what it's worth.

 

[Dali]

$35 For a Holga vs $1500 for a Hassy? I take the Holga any time.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I wouldn't use a Holga if it is given to me. I would try to sell it for money even $5 is more than what it's worth.

I would beg them to take it back. Heck if necessary I would throw in six cans of dog food.

 

[Arthurwg]

I wouldn't use a Holga if it is given to me. I would try to sell it for money even $5 is more than what it's worth.

I've taken some of my best pictures with a Holga.

 

[warden]

I've taken some of my best pictures with a Holga.

I was kidding about $35 being over priced. I think that’s about right. I paid more for mine but what’s new there?

 

[darkosaric]

Well, I know it is trolling, but never mind .
I don't like Holga so much (I have one, of course), original Diana F is much better IMO, or F+, even the plastic is more fragile, but the Diana lens is giving more dreamy and characteristic quality that is asked in that type of the cameras.
Hasselblad...no thanks - Rolleiflex any day for me.

 

[Arthurwg]

Well, I know it is trolling, but never mind .
I don't like Holga so much (I have one, of course), original Diana F is much better IMO, or F+, even the plastic is more fragile, but the Diana lens is giving more dreamy and characteristic quality that is asked in that type of the cameras.
Hasselblad...no thanks - Rolleiflex any day for me.

Rolleiflex? Yes, I've got one of them too.

 

[Chan Tran]

I've taken some of my best pictures with a Holga.

I am sure you have and probably better than any of mine but using the Holga gives me no pleasure which I seek.

 

[mitrajoon]

your bases are belong to us!

Ahh, now understand. I just wish the Mod did.

 

[Michel Hardy-Vallée]

How have I decided an answer or anything by asking a question? Gee, this COVID thing does a lot more damage than meets the media.

If I ask someone, "Why are you so stupid?" there's a big possibility that they will feel I am implying something about them.

 

[removed account4]

If I ask someone, "Why are you so stupid?" there's a big possibility that they will feel I am implying something about them.

if someone asked me that ( and sometimes they do ). I usually answer, " oh yea, says you ... "

 

[flavio81]

Hasselblad was the first camera system. One which until the end of production was fully upward and downward compatible. Bronica was quick to follow, then later Nikon started its system with the Nikon F.

You took 12 (twelve) posts to appear!! Too long, too long!!

The Exakta was probably the first camera system, long before the Hasselblad.

 

[flavio81]

...remember, the reflex mirror in a TLR doesn't move. The wide-angle lenses could have been designed to sit very close to it, but instead 'spare space' has been allowed for the baffle. As you say, a 38mm Biogon wouldn't work, but if they camera was designed slightly differently then maybe a 45mm wide-angle would have been possible. Or the existing 55/65mm lenses could have been less compromised optically by being designed for a shorter back-focus.

The use of retrofocus lenses isn't really because of the mirror, but because of the long flange-to-film distance. Even in the Mamiya C series TLRs, it is long. Thus, lenses shorter than about 80?70? mm will need to be retrofocus, that's why the 65mm and the 55mm are retrofocus.

The Wide-Rolleiflex has a shorter flange-to-mirror distance yet its lenses are retrofocus too.

 

[warden]

You took 12 (twelve) posts to appear!! Too long, too long!!
.

There are so few constants in this world any more. I'm glad we have this one!

 

[flavio81]

Just my two cents...

I think the Hasselblad 500(and up) series have very little competition in the 6x6 field. The first Bronicas make a huge noise and have had a story of problems keeping the focusing screen in the proper place and the two-mirror system is complex to repair. Then there's the Bronica SQ system but it's an electronic camera, so slightly different. The Rolleiflex SL66 system has a focal plane shutter.

Personally I think the Rolleiflex cameras have a better fit and finish and they have an excellent reliability record.

And when I saw and handled a Rolleiflex SL66 i was in love. Yes, it's a bigger camera than a Hassy, but the build quality is amazing; it's a really wonderful camera which someday i'll own.

As for the Carl Zeiss lenses, great medium format lenses are also made by Pentax, Mamiya, Schneider, Nikon, and sometimes Bronica too, so I don't think there's any particular advantage here.

 

[Alan Gales]

True, not everyone needs or wants a Hasselblad. I think you can buy a new Holga for around $35.00

Yugo's were cheap too. Doesn't mean I'd want to drive one.

 

[Sirius Glass]

You took 12 (twelve) posts to appear!! Too long, too long!!

The Exakta was probably the first camera system, long before the Hasselblad.

Unlike others here I have a life outside of this website.

 

[eddie]

I don't like Holga so much (I have one, of course), original Diana F is much better IMO, or F+, even the plastic is more fragile, but the Diana lens is giving more dreamy and characteristic quality that is asked in that type of the cameras.

I prefer the Diana over the Holga, too. I do have about 10 of each, though, and both can make exceptional photographs within their limitations.
I think people who dismiss them are probably not very imaginative image makers.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I hold the camera the same way.

I never had a problem driving in the UK, Ireland, or Australia, but when I got home I had to keep checking myself so I would not be on the wrong side.

I've always wondered why it's people who live on islands who drive on the wrong side. Ireland, Australia, Great Britain, US Virgin Islands, even when I served in Japan and owned my first car. Of course, it was an American car so the steering wheel was on the left. I used to ask my passenger to check if anyone was coming on the right when I pulled out to pass the guy in front of me.

 

[darkosaric]

I prefer the Diana over the Holga, too. I do have about 10 of each, though, and both can make exceptional photographs within their limitations.
I think people who dismiss them are probably not very imaginative image makers.

Different people, different tastes. Some adore pinhole, some want super sharp images above all. That is what makes us different, and that is good. I like to try everything, I buy and sell many cheap cameras (right now I have 50+ cameras, 40+ of them are cheap plastic fantastic), try different films, different developers, papers...for me it is not only final image that counts, but also the fun getting there.

 

[grat]

Just my two cents...

I think the Hasselblad 500(and up) series have very little competition in the 6x6 field. The first Bronicas make a huge noise and have had a story of problems keeping the focusing screen in the proper place and the two-mirror system is complex to repair. Then there's the Bronica SQ system but it's an electronic camera, so slightly different. The Rolleiflex SL66 system has a focal plane shutter.

I thought the Bronica's were noisy. Then I bought a Fuji GX680.

Actually, I like my SQ-A, and have no interest in upgrading to a Hasselblad. While I might gain a bit on image clarity (although the Zenzanon lenses have a good reputation), I'd be losing in up-front and eventual repair costs. I put together a working SQ-A system with two backs, an 80mm (S) lens, both the WLF and AE finders, for a total of around $600. While that took a bit of searching and piecing together a system (the body itself was cheap, but had an electrical gremlin), I'd be hard pressed to put together an equivalent Hasselblad for twice that amount.