Why is Hasselblad so overrated?

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BradS said:
Sitting on the wrong side of the car and shifting with the left hand is easy (the H pattern is the same). Driving on the wrong side of the road takes some getting used to and can be very dangerous.
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This make me chuckle. When I was a kid I inherited a then 10 year old 65 Chevy. "3 on the tree" I was a huge car, the pedals were spread out. Modern cars and old people, every now and then you see where an older person drives into a business when parking. Damn gas pedal is where the brake used to be.
I would be impressed, if Tesla or some other company would ditch the consoles loaded with junk and open up the floorboard for us size 11 E folks.

"A Fish Called Wanda" the Kevin Kline character driving the big Lincoln in England, on the wrong side of the road hilarious!
 

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MattKing said:
Which hand do you use to adjust shutter speed and aperture?
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My right.

The aperture ring and shutter speed ring are on the lens, same as the focussing ring. I used my right hand to focus, change shutter speed, aperture and wind the film. Easy peasy!
 

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At one time I believed that people who who used screw-mount Leicas had higher IQ's than others, or at least were better educated. I believe that about Hasselblads today.

It's ridiculous s to think film Hasselblads and lenses are expensive and over priced. Look at prices for high-end digital cameras. Those bodies seem to start at $7000 and go up to $40,000. And they all become obsolete very quickly.
 

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Arthurwg said:
It's ridiculous s to think film Hasselblads and lenses are expensive and over priced. Look at prices for high-end digital cameras. Those bodies seem to start at $7000 and go up to $40,000. And they all become obsolete very quickly.
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This is exactly the logic that finally allowed me to buy a Leica M. Instead of buying a mediocre digital imaging device, I bought a very nice used Leica. So far, it seems like a good choice.
 
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Michel Hardy-Vallée said:
You're basically deciding the answer in advance if you're wondering why X is over/under-rated.
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How have I decided an answer or anything by asking a question? Gee, this COVID thing does a lot more damage than meets the media.
 
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Arthurwg said:
It's ridiculous s to think film Hasselblads and lenses are expensive and over priced. Look at prices for high-end digital cameras. Those bodies seem to start at $7000 and go up to $40,000. And they all become obsolete very quickly.
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By extension a 50k car is not expensive because you can buy one for 200k? They are both overpriced and it is all relative, making none of it "ridiculous".
 

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Arthurwg said:
It's ridiculous s to think film Hasselblads and lenses are expensive and over priced. Look at prices for high-end digital cameras. Those bodies seem to start at $7000 and go up to $40,000. And they all become obsolete very quickly.
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Obsolete? I still have an Olympus E-1 and a couple of lenses which take perfectly good 5MP photos. It's not my main digital camera anymore, it's raw files look better in modern editing software than they ever did when the camera came out.

What would have been a $7000 equivalent camera in 1967?

There were always cameras which lots of people felt were excessive.
What about those incredibly expensive monorail cameras that were mainly purchased by advertising agencies. Or cameras for cut-n-butt catalog photography which you and I COULD have bought, but found excessive for what we wanted to do? I lusted after a Sinar P2, but I could not justify paying for it and a small set of lenses, as much as I wanted to feel like Ansel Adams. Those and their lenses cost a fortune.

When I bought my first new SLR camera, with my own money, and showed it to my dad he nearly raised a hand to me and yelled "That cost more than my first car!" he was livid. That was in 1997.

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Alan Gales said:
My right.

The aperture ring and shutter speed ring are on the lens, same as the focussing ring. I used my right hand to focus, change shutter speed, aperture and wind the film. Easy peasy!
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As I mentioned, I have very limited strength and dexterity in my right hand. Thus my preference for other cameras.
 

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Michel Hardy-Vallée said:
You're basically deciding the answer in advance if you're wondering why X is over/under-rated.
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Witold said:
How have I decided an answer or anything by asking a question? Gee, this COVID thing does a lot more damage than meets the media.
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I understand where Michel is coming from - the form of this question tends to lead to a limited range of answers. It is the sort of thing that lawyers try to do when in court.
The question is fine, but its limits may end up restricting who answers and how useful those answers might be. So discussing the question can be worthwhile.
 

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MattKing said:
As I mentioned, I have very limited strength and dexterity in my right hand. Thus my preference for other cameras.
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I hear you. That will make a huge difference.

I have a weak back. I had a fusion back in 1993. No back packing camera equipment for me.
 

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Not just court. My wife likes to ask these “loaded questions “, especially about my hobbies... then assert that “it was just a question “. “Why couldn’t you have lived a perfectly happy life without (insert name of any new hobby item I just purchased)? If she didn’t have many other redeeming features...

i, for one, chose to watch this thread rather than participate since I have no interest in immediately being put on the defensive.
 

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Witold said:
By extension a 50k car is not expensive because you can buy one for 200k? They are both overpriced and it is all relative, making none of it "ridiculous".
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Overpriced and expensive are unrelated terms but I think some people use them interchangeably in this thread. Much Hasselblad gear is expensive but not overpriced.
 

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When she brings up spending money on your hobby ask her if she really needs 20 bottles of hair products in the bathroom.
 

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Witold said:
By extension a 50k car is not expensive because you can buy one for 200k? They are both overpriced and it is all relative, making none of it "ridiculous".
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Anyone who thinks that a good Hasselblad body is expensive at $1000 to $1500 is being "ridiculous".
 

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jawarden said:
Overpriced and expensive are unrelated terms but I think some people use them interchangeably in this thread. Much Hasselblad gear is expensive but not overpriced.
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IDK. maybe. .. and maybe not ... now. .. as much as "before time"
im happy hassys are over priced and people flock to them .. I will never buy one but tickled pink
others like them, because it keeps their eyes off the gear I find most interesting and that I would want to use.
so, no hasselblads are not over priced or over rated, please buy as many of them as you can
especially the stuff that is so beautiful and the Zeiss lenses that are so perfect, and the bodies that are like "butter"
 

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Arthurwg said:
Anyone who thinks that a good Hasselblad body is expensive at $1000 to $1500 is being "ridiculous".
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No, not "ridiculous", just someone with a different dollar sense of its value. Different budgets for different folks.
 

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Witold said:
By extension a 50k car is not expensive because you can buy one for 200k? They are both overpriced and it is all relative, making none of it "ridiculous".
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that’s a bad analogy.
A more reasonable analogy would be something like, since the median sales price of new cars sold in the US is $40k the price of a twenty year old Mercedes SL600 is ridiculously inexpensive.
 

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jawarden said:
Overpriced and expensive are unrelated terms but I think some people use them interchangeably in this thread. Much Hasselblad gear is expensive but not overpriced.
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Leica (ducking...)?
 
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Arthurwg said:
Anyone who thinks that a good Hasselblad body is expensive at $1000 to $1500 is being "ridiculous".
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In other words whatever YOU think is not overpriced to you it must also NOT be overpriced for everyone else. It does not look I can explain how ridiculous your statement is. And I am NOT saying Hasselblad is overpriced, yet I can easily understand how many can think that. Price is always a relative phenomenon.

Of course you are quoting price points of some quite specific and in fact limited in long term quality models, which some would advise NOT to get, but well, when nothing but the badge will do, it makes no difference for this argument.
 
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BradS said:
that’s a bad analogy.
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How so? The supposed "proof" against calling Hasselblad overpriced was referencing its price to an entirely different photographic animal. In fact I would argue my analogy is far closer to were this argument's target is as I am referring two items with identical technology driving them AND both build in the same year, not a digital imaging device against one that is not and one that is much older than the other. Take orange and an apple and prove how one is better tasting than the other ... to YOU of course.

Is there an argument about relativity not being a key factor in overpriced (and indeed - expensive) conclusion one can come to?
 
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Alan Gales said:
When she brings up spending money on your hobby ask her if she really needs 20 bottles of hair products in the bathroom.
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Yet, it is relative. How is the outcome of using the seemingly ... overloaded ... bathroom? Like, no like? Or does one never dare to say it ?
 

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Arthurwg said:
Anyone who thinks that a good Hasselblad body is expensive at $1000 to $1500 is being "ridiculous".
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Witold said:
In other words whatever YOU think is not overpriced to you it must also NOT be overpriced for everyone else. It does not look I can explain how ridiculous your statement is.
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Be careful. There is a difference between expensive and overpriced.
$1,000 to $1500 can be both expensive and underpriced.
 

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I lose a lot of auctions on "that auction site" because what I think is overpriced isn't overpriced to someone else.
C'est la vie.
 
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