Anyway, I totally agree that I should be printing optically, and I have all the stuff the only thing I don't have is probably some paper and some developer, but I have everything else that I could ever need to develop and print properly ... Except the darkroom space... And yes I could in theory going to my bathroom at night try to shut off all lights of block out the windows, do a contact print, and hope to expose it and developing properly, but for me going to the process of doing something like that and not really coming out with a quality product is it really useful, to me that's a waste of time because I wouldn't really be able to perfect anything, and by the time that I actually got to setting up a real dark room and printing again for real, to print something nice that was actually usable, I would have forgotten basically everything that I learned in my bathroom anyway and so I just don't want to waste the time, when I have so many other things going on in my life.
(underlining by me, for clarity).
Stone,
This is going to be my very last response to this thread. You are wasting time right now trying to understand something that is of much less importance to your photography than just simply doing more photography.
You are doing yourself a huge disfavor to try to accomplish something by leaning too much on the qualities of the film and developer you use.
Is it NOT clear by now, reading all of the responses of fellow photographers here, PLUS the fact that most photography books don't have the information you asked about in the first place, that it isn't something that will make or break a photographer?
I just don't understand why this is so important to you. You just went through a long rigmarole trying to figure out whether TMax 400, Tri-X 320, or HP5+ is what you want to use. And then immediately after that long thread is finished, you start this one and another one about using Tech Pan?! It's like a gigantic mystery to me and you are all over the place. If you take the time to really learn just ONE of the films you have questions about and flail around trying out, then the choice of film will gradually become less and less important, because you will
see with your own eyes that it is your skill that determines the outcome of your photographs, not the stupid film. Just be patient and buy nothing but one film for a long time and try to work on the other much more important aspects of photography.
Film has no ability to think or act, but YOU do. You create something that is a reflection of what it is you want to show. What is it you actually do want to show us with your photography? What do you want us to experience and feel? What do you want us to take away from watching your photographs?
I think of the photographs you have posted in the gallery over the period in time you've been on APUG, and the only thing I can really remember is the fact that you want MUCH more contrast from your photographs than I do, that you titled many of your photographs by what film you used, and that you used a very handsome lady's bottom to draw attention to one of your cameras. I'm not saying that to be mean, it's just me speaking my mind. I can't remember a single other thing.
In the same breath I will say I remember other photographs from members long gone, posted to the gallery years ago, because how beautifully crafted they were. And I don't remember a single thing about them regarding what film was used.
If you want to perfect anything, as you mentioned yourself above about darkroom printing, spend much less time with learning about materials, and much more time learning about the art. Make good art! Wise words by Neil Gaiman that everybody should embrace.
Peace.