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.and is there any one out there that does or knows how to DIY, other than 'rubberized' or Silicon spray the body and mags?

What would you do?
 

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For shooting in inclement weather I choose a different camera. There was an underwater housing option. Didn’t we just discuss this?
 

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For shooting in inclement weather I choose a different camera. There was an underwater housing option. Didn’t we just discuss this?

Yes, there was a discussion using rain covers.
 

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Spraying a device with silicone-oil to me is a very bad idea. Everything becomes slippery. That stuff even is transferred to other device and even more, only to be removed with organic solvents.

I use silicone-oil and -grease, but only very dedicated. I store it in my toxic-cabinet so to say.
 

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"Weatherized" was not in the vocabulary until well into the digital era.

500's are fully mechanical, and would just keep working until they were fully flooded. Not so digital. And you could dry them, and CLA them if necessary. Probably not digital.

I used an umbrella to minimize the water, and wipe and dry it afterwards. water drop stains on the screen are a pain though.
 

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"Weatherized" was not in the vocabulary until well into the digital era.
Well, before that there were some compact AF cameras that already got some seals and could keep rain out, the same for the Nikon F5. But for the designers of nearly all other film cameras that was no issue. But what sense makes a rainproof body, if the water gets into the barrel of the lens nonetheless?
From the late 70's on the accessories market had rain covers to offer.
 

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There's a video on YouTube of Fay Godwin shooting with her 500 in the driving rain. Other than the occasional wipe of the lens (with what looks like a Kleenex!) the camera seemed to keep chugging away. But, as suggested above, I'd use a different camera in that sort of weather.
 

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.and is there any one out there that does or knows how to DIY, other than 'rubberized' or Silicon spray the body and mags?

What would you do?

Um....I just get out and use them, weather be damned. If it is wet snow or light rain, I whip out a plastic bag and work with that. Nikon FM2N's have been to the summit of Mt. Everest umpteen times and they are not weather sealed so that should tell you something about the use and care of mechanical cameras.

But, as suggested above, I'd use a different camera in that sort of weather.

In medium format? What would you use then? I had a film magazine get cold and wet once and just pulled another magazine out of the dry bag and kept on working after loading it in my jacket with the rain cover on the camera. Try doing that with your Pentax 67, Rollei, etc.
 
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Most 'weather-sealed' cameras date from the advent of more heavily electronic cameras that were intended to be used in situations (newsgathering for example) where other means of weather protection would be more awkward or potentially dangerous. Rather than demanding fantasy cameras based off needs irrelevant to most situations, take sensible precautions and you'll be fine.
 

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Move to Los Angeles and you will not have to worry about rain.
 

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isn't the V the electric one that you have to plug into an electrical socket ? seems weather proofing would be the least of your worries :wink:
 

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isn't the V the electric one that you have to plug into an electrical socket ? seems weather proofing would be the least of your worries :wink:

There was a bizarre and huge waxed canvas blimp made for the 500EL/ELM for remote operation.
 

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Spraying a device with silicone-oil to me is a very bad idea. Everything becomes slippery. That stuff even is transferred to other device and even more, only to be removed with organic solvents.

I use silicone-oil and -grease, but only very dedicated. I store it in my toxic-cabinet so to say.

This is very accurate, we get glass lab equipment in and it is covered in silicone grease and the easiest way to take it off is in an annealing oven at 565 Celsius.
 

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Move to Los Angeles and you will not have to worry about rain.

How do y'all deal with the traffic there? I would arrive at LAX around 12 leave about 1 and traffic was already bad going towards Bakersfield.
 

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How do y'all deal with the traffic there? I would arrive at LAX around 12 leave about 1 and traffic was already bad going towards Bakersfield.

I will save a place for you in the traffic.
 
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I think it is a very good piece of kit and belongs in my bag, at the least, and perhaps it is also what is know as a "Baffle Bag".

I do wish it was lighter in colour, so if the camera is set up, it reflects warming light, but as is it'll do.

I think it would be even better if it had a matching material darkcloth, and a heavy vinyl window flat, that was removable, from under a camera wide permanent flap, for at 90 and 45 degrees, viewfinders prism viewfinder or a ground glass screen, could be used.

500CM/C Hasselblads have always been an outdoor camera, as well as a inside studio or location tools, which, again, is why I asked the question in the first place.

Leica/other copies of Leica's, 39mm mount cameras, have been used and submerged in sea and fresh waters, especially during WWII, as one wartime photographer observed, was a frequent issue to deal with, and the solution, no pun, was to simply put them in a bucket of fresh water, for rinsing the salt out, then dry them out overnight, presumably by a fan or heater with a fan, so they were ready to go the next day.

When making a new, expensive professional's camera in the following years, I would have though that would have been a priority, especially in light of the hours wildlife photographers sat in the weather, waiting for their quarry, especially birds and most especially, water foul.

Hasselblads 500 C/CM cameras, weak link is in the materials of the camera, and shuttered lenses, which include, it seems, steel parts that will rust, , ie. the shutters and self-timer.

That is a complication that deserved additional attention, IMO, that other than the weather jacket seen linked, above, that was never dealt with, in all the years of production.

With all the young shooters, or mature shooters that have/are come(ing) along, most of those I've see, online, are using these cameras and lenses, out of doors, in all kinds of weather.

No doubt about it, I will always view no minimum weather resistance is the #2 failure of Hasselblad Design, #1, as we all know, is the sync train of the lens, body linkage.

IMO.
 

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I can't unsee that.

Does this help?
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Spraying a device with silicone-oil to me is a very bad idea. Everything becomes slippery. That stuff even is transferred to other device and even more, only to be removed with organic solvents.

I use silicone-oil and -grease, but only very dedicated. I store it in my toxic-cabinet so to say.


I had meant to say silicon 'rubber', no silicon oil.
 

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Hasselblads 500 C/CM cameras, weak link is in the materials of the camera, and shuttered lenses, which include, it seems, steel parts that will rust, , ie. the shutters and self-timer.
Hasselblads were in production for almost six decades and used all over the world, on mountains, in cities, in laboratories, etc. Are you manufacturing an issue that does not exist? Where is this all going? What is its purpose?
 

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Hasselblads 500 C/CM cameras, weak link is in the materials of the camera, and shuttered lenses, which include, it seems, steel parts that will rust, , ie. the shutters and self-timer.

Site your information source. Was the equipment handled and stored correctly? Sounds apocryphal.
 
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Personal experience shows me that the shutters have steel screws, as does the bodies and none I've seen/remove "Stainless", much less "Marine Stainless" for a start; work it out from there.

Cheers.
Hasselblads were in production for almost six decades and used all over the world, on mountains, in cities, in laboratories, etc. Are you manufacturing an issue that does not exist? Where is this all going? What is its purpose?
 
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Yet nowhere do I see a statement on how well they worked in those environments, when wet, frozen, mudded, etc.

The fact is, these camera's and their lenses, have 'Been there, did that, got the tee shirt' however that does no say they were no badly affected or needed a deep refurbishment or, even replacment.



As to purpose, many here are just curious about our kit and why the were designed, or no, for their market and use and really do no feel a need to explain why we want to further explore old kit.
 
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