Who makes Ultrafine, Ultrafine Plus, and Ultrafine Xtreme Films?

[destroya]

i would guess that if GenA does anything with the film, it is the finishing. maybe harman sends them the master roll and boxes and 120 wrappers, 35mm cans and so on. then in CA they finish everything else. this could help keep costs down as there could possibly be diffferent savings buy not importing a finished product or something to that effect. one thing I always noticed with Xtreme bulk rolls is that there is no spool in the center of the roll. it is just rolled in a circle with noithing to put the roller pin in. that saves costs. not sure if harman would allow that on finished rolls that they do, maybe they do, like a car add on. dont want it, donw pay for it.

regardless, the X100 and in120, 400 are both very nice films for the price. i will continue to buy and shoot them as long as they are available. I would really like to have the X100 in 4x5 film size.

john

 

[MattKing]

Or Harman does everything except putting the results into boxes.

 

[removed account4]

On the contact us page of photo warehouse’s website there is a 1800 phone number. While the guy probably won’t tell you the origin story of filmS you are trying to identify ... he will tell you what genA is and isn’t. It seems that there are no emulsion lines no coating and slitting facility no packaging plant. It’s like the parent company and their offices......

 

[Wallendo]

I suspect that whoever makes the film does the packaging. Maintaining a facility capable of slitting bulk rolls, packing 35mm into cassettes, canisters and boxes as well as create 120 film, attach it to paper, roll it unto rolls, attach the foil and place it in a box is a very complicated undertaking. To do so for one small mail order company only makes little sense. I don't think there is much or a market for doing this for others, especially in the US. If a company was willing to do that for others, it would really have helped Film Ferrania get up and running faster.

My experience is that UltraFine Xtreme films looks a lot like Kentmere, and nothing at all like Foma films. I have no experience with Innoviscoat B&W films. On the other hand, most of my Harman manufactured products have been labelled as "Made in England". Maybe made in UK is designed to through people off

 

[lantau]

If it was converted in the US it would say Made in USA. Conversion seems to be enough for the Made in label.

So, unless they ship master rolls from China to England it will be Harman OEM.

That's why we don't know where Acros is made. We only know that Fujis conversion lines in Japan are overbooked. So Harman comes in handy for that.

So on the one hand Fuji may have enough capacity on their coater (my wild guess) and send over the master rolls, or they found it advantageous to offload the whole b/w line to Harman.

 

[VintageLight&Shadow]

Many years back it was reported Photo Warehouse B&W film was made by InovisCoat. After that, everyone was saying it was Foma film. Several recent videos suggest currently the film is Ilford/Kentmere.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I tested a roll of xtreme 400 and Kentmere 400. In my tests, they are one and the same. So, Ilford makes Xtreme films, down to the packaging... It's most likely confectioned by Ilford, too.
The video is in the Photrio thread...

 

[pentaxuser]

I tested a roll of xtreme 400 and Kentmere 400. In my tests, they are one and the same. So, Ilford makes Xtreme films, down to the packaging... It's most likely confectioned by Ilford, too.
The video is in the Photrio thread...

Thanks, Andrew. At last a definitive answer. Otherwise I imagine this thread might have continued forever

pentaxuser

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Thanks, Andrew. At last a definitive answer. Otherwise I imagine this thread might have continued forever

pentaxuser

I'm sure it still will

 

[MattKing]

Thanks, Andrew. At last a definitive answer. Otherwise I imagine this thread might have continued forever

pentaxuser

I'm sure it still will

With these sort of retailers, it is probably necessary to date code any "definitive" answer.
Next year, it is very possible that any answer will need to be checked!
They still are interesting places to look though.

 

[loccdor]

 

[John Wiegerink]

With these sort of retailers, it is probably necessary to date code any "definitive" answer.
Next year, it is very possible that any answer will need to be checked!
They still are interesting places to look though.

That's exactly why I don't cut corners and buy a "no brand name" film from them. I remember a few years ago they were selling Shanghai GP3 under a different name and it was good film. Not the red wrapper off-set junk. I didn't know it was GP3 at the time, but found out latter. Next thing you know they were out and the film was on backorder. Well, I waited and waited that film to come back in stock, but it never did. Waste of time. That's when I said, "No more"! Besides, are you really saving that much anyway?