Who likes halation?

[Huss]

Nikon F6, Sigma Art 35 1.4, Arista 100, Cinestill DF96

Holy Halation circles batman! Arista 100 is awesome for that vintage B&W look. Great for high lit portraits too.
Modern emulsions do not have this glow. If you like this look, Arista gives it to you!

 

[Paul Howell]

Nice shot, I shoot a lot of Foma 200 and 400, never noticed any significant halation, have used much 100, when I tested it I found it needed to be shot at ISO 50, a little too low for my needs. Kentmare and Ultafine extrema 100 and 400 do not have antihalation layer one of reasons I've switched to Foma and now using Finesse 100 and 400, not sure if Finesse has an antihalation layer or not. The rolls I've shoot have not been an issue. If you like the effect try a Argus C3 with uncoated 50mm lens.

 

[Vaughn]

Fun! This is just FP4+ -- but I like the star effect I got with the street lamps..

Different beastie than halation, but still interesting...

 

[Huss]

Fun! This is just FP4+ -- but I like the star effect I got with the street lamps..

Different beastie than halation, but still interesting...

Very cool! That effect is from your lens, and your lens does it really well! Most have wide/messy star effects stopped down. What was the lens? Aperture looks like at least f11..

 

[Vaughn]

Fuji W 180/5.6 (older single coated lens), at f32 at 10 minutes. no filter.

One of the minor things I enjoy about the image is that I kept the trunks of the far palms differentiated from the hills behind them. I waited until some of the lights came on in the taller apt buildings.

5x7 platinum/palladium print

 

[Moose22]

Fun! This is just FP4+ -- but I like the star effect I got with the street lamps..

Different beastie than halation, but still interesting...

I like stars way better than halos. I've told Huss this in a different thread, I shot some cinestill 800t and the halo effect... I HATED it. Others loved it, but halos are not for me.

I love stars. I'll stop down to get them with digital. I should play with B&W more at night this winter and see what I can get.

BTW, I like the print even better than the photo. Old school, and really cool. Good job there.

 

[Huss]

I like stars way better than halos. I've told Huss this in a different thread, I shot some cinestill 800t and the halo effect... I HATED it. Others loved it, but halos are not for me.

I get that. What is interesting is Arista 100 can give than glowing portraiture look that was so big in the movie industry back in the 1940s (30s,40s?). Just depends on how you light the scene.

IF you do like the halation look... what is nice is that Arista lets you have it for $5/roll instead of $14/roll for Cinestill.

 

[Huss]

 

[Moose22]

IF you do like the halation look... what is nice is that Arista lets you have it for $5/roll instead of $14/roll for Cinestill.

And, not unlike cinestill, I find the Arista reasonably useful in situations where I do like its character. I've only used it in daylight so far, so I hadn't seen it halo before you posted this, but I did like it on people and dogs. I have more of it in the fridge, at less than $5 it's great.

I haven't tried the 200 yet, but after enjoying the 100 I got a couple rolls of that, too.

 

[Down Under]

Personally, I'm anti...

For what it's worth, I'll say that my film archives contain a few thousand very old negatives, mostly shot on the older non-halation (halated?) film. Verichrome and the like.

The effect in prints is quite pleasant. Odd light effects and the like. Almost like - bokeh.

I wasn't aware that these films were still being made. Worth investigating in the new year.

 

[AZD]

I am pro-halation in some circumstances. Ultrafine eXtreme 100 was really good at it (or bad at not doing it?). When I got it right highlights would be lifted up beyond normal exposure, giving a sort of tonal expansion just in that range. The effect is to give a better sense of bright, high contrast light. For instance, you could get snow to really glow without overexposing background foliage or other details. I wish I could say I knew how to always control it perfectly. Really nice when it works out.

BTW, I’ve had nice sun stars from pretty much any old camera with a Synchro Compur shutter and 10 blade iris. Stop down to f11 or 16 and they magically appear without being obnoxious. Mix that with some halation in a long exposure night scene and it can be pretty cool. I did this in Scranton (the Electric City) but still need to make prints. The negatives make me happy already though.

 

[lantau]

I've had these halos on Fomapan 400 in 35mm. The ones I have in mind were taken at dusk on the streets of Taipei, and the cars, and plenty of scooters, had their headlights on. The antihalation of their rollfilms is a little better, iirc. Hence the green green greetings from the factory when you develop.

My problem with Cinestill is that there is no antihalation whatsoever, once the remjet is removed. I saw the ugly red halation around treebranches against the sky.

 

[Huss]

I've had these halos on Fomapan 400 in 35mm. The ones I have in mind were taken at dusk on the streets of Taipei, and the cars, and plenty of scooters, had their headlights on. The antihalation of their rollfilms is a little better, iirc. Hence the green green greetings from the factory when you develop.

My problem with Cinestill is that there is no antihalation whatsoever, once the remjet is removed. I saw the ugly red halation around treebranches against the sky.

Arista is re-packaged Fomapan so that makes sense. Also a better buy than Fomapan as cheaper!

 

[Arthurwg]

I've been interested in Halation ever since I saw some outdoor daytime fashion pictures that seemed to exhibit it. It's been suggested that those may have been shot with infrared. But my point is that I would like to induce Halation in sunlit pictures. Any suggestions?

 

[MattKing]

I've been interested in Halation ever since I saw some outdoor daytime fashion pictures that seemed to exhibit it. It's been suggested that those may have been shot with infrared. But my point is that I would like to induce Halation in sunlit pictures. Any suggestions?

Backlight and some added diffusion will mimic it nicely.

 

[Arthurwg]

Backlight and some added diffusion will mimic it nicely.

Now that I think about it, those pictures were indeed backlit. What "diffusion" are you thinking of?

 

[Sirius Glass]

Not a big fan of halation. On rare instance I my see a use for it, but I am not going to buy up a load of film and to only use it once or twice in a decade.

 

[MattKing]

What "diffusion" are you thinking of?

What you achieve by distorting the image gathering ability of a lens by adding something to it. You can use everything from petroleum jelly smeared on a skylight filter through a piece of stocking mounted in a filter ring to a special purpose soft focus lens.
Technically speaking the soft focus lenses don't really add diffusion - they overlay additional exposure that is high in the effects of intentionally added lens aberrations.

 

[MattKing]

Pinholes also work:

 

[Huss]

Now that I think about it, those pictures were indeed backlit. What "diffusion" are you thinking of?

Backlighting and high key lighting will give that glow/halation look for portraits using Arista film. I don't think you will need to add any extra diffusion.

 

[Huss]

Pinholes also work:
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Awesome pic Matt!

 

[Vaughn]

How do the folks who coat their own glass plates handle halation?

Another direction -- x-ray film. Most is coated with emulsion on both sides. The below is an 8x10 platinum/palladium print from double-sided x-ray film (processed at the hospital). Open shade, so less likely to show halation. I have some landscape images somewhere taken on x-ray film that were long exposures with some very bright areas...those highlights do glow a bit.

 

[MattKing]

Awesome pic Matt!

Thanks.

 

[Huss]

Nikon F6, Sigma Art 35, Arista 100, Cinestill DF96

 

[MattKing]

And of course, there always is a young Olivia Newton-John: