Which would you choose -- the Nikon F5 or the F100?

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I have had an F100 since they first came to be and an F5 for about seven months. When I grab one now it's usually the F5, maybe it's the novelty but I do like it. Many times the "backup" which goes with me is an F3...go figure!
I do still love my F100 and will keep it for as long as I live, maybe it could accompany me as a backup for the backup!
 

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I bought from JCH because the camera is graded Mint-, CLA'd and comes with a 3-month guarantee. Price was right also. Thought it might be good to buy from a reputable dealer rather than Ebay etc.
 

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Gonna have to try out an F6. My F5 is great and if the F6 is that much better,,,,,,,,,well.

IMO the F6 is not better or worse than the F5, they are different animals. The F6 was made for a different customer than the F5, the F6 comes from the F100 with refinements from the F5, for example the 1,005 rgb segments in the meter, but the F6 lacks the brutally fast AF of the F5 and the tank like Pro solid construction.

An advantage of the F6 is that it is both TTL and i-TTL flash compatible, so advanced flash operation (ratio auto mode, etc) can be used with modern strobes.

The F6 weight is lower, but if you mount a 200/2.8 pro zoom then you may want to add the grip to increase body weight and size, today the D5 could be made lighter but it has a similar weight than the F5, a Pro may want that body weight, if a hike is not in the middle.
 
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IMO the F6 is not better or worse than the F5, they are different animals.

Wrong. The F6 is significantly improved in more than 20 different parameters compared to the F5. It was a clear design goal of Nikon to surpass the performance of the F5 with their direct successor F6. They wanted to make the best 35mm SLR they have ever made with the F6. And they succeeded in it. As I am both a F5 and F6 user I can confirm.

The F6 was made for a different customer than the F5, the F6 comes from the F100 with refinements from the F5, for example the 1,005 rgb segments in the meter, but the F6 lacks the brutally fast AF of the F5 and the tank like Pro solid construction.

Oh please, not again all these stupid lies from internet armchair experts, who have never used a F6 by themselves, like you. Neither is the F6 a derivate from the F100 (they don't share one single part, and they have a completely different design concept, different DNAs), nor has the F6 the same meter as the F5 (the F6 has an improved metering system), nor has the F6 a worse AF compared to the F5. The AF of the F6 is at least as fast as the F5, and the whole AF system is significantly improved with better AF points coverage across the viewfinder (and more AF points), and much improved AF functions including different AF-C options.
Sorry, with all respect, but you absolutely don't know what you are talking about. I am using the F100, F5 and F6. Have used them in professional applications, have earned money with them.

The F6 weight is lower,

No, for a weight comparison you have to compare the F5 with the F6 with MB-40, and then the difference is negligible and completely irrelvant for daily usage.

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Henning
 

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The F5 is in the tradition of the single digit models. I've owned both. A really mint F100, Excellent plus from KEH somehow miraculously not sticky is a joy to travel with. I have kept two F5 bodies, they don't get sticky, are built like a tank, and don't require a silly screw on battery grip. The F6 I've never used, but the upgraded focus and computer must make it a great camera. It all has to do with what you have for money, etc. And how much you want your film camera to look like a D5 :smile:.
 

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Wrong. The F6 is significantly improved in more than 20 different parameters compared to the F5. It was a clear design goal of Nikon to surpass the performance of the F5 with their direct successor F6. They wanted to make the best 35mm SLR they have ever made with the F6. And they succeeded in it. As I am both a F5 and F6 user I can confirm.

The F6 was released in 2004 and the F5 in 1996, so obviuosly the F6 adds technical advances, there is no doubt. If those advances are important or not, YMMV, for me the single one I consider really important is i-TTL flash system.

But the F6 was made for an era that had Pro news and sport photographers migrated to D1 which mostly had the F5 body construction and durability. The D1 is the true successor of the F5, but it's digital:



Oh please, not again all these stupid lies from internet armchair experts, who have never used a F6 by themselves

Take a look:

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Basicly the F6 is the F100 concept with F5 features upgraded, but lacking the solid pro construction and durability, and also lacking some top Pro refinements like interchangeable viewfinders, weather protected, which were an absolute challenge to design and to manufacture.

Of course, if you don't need battlefield durable construction and interchangeable viewfinders then you won't notice the strengths of the F5.

and... what about the isolated fim transport ???? this is a core feature...



The AF of the F6 is at least as fast as the F5

It depends on how you use the AF, if using S with the internal motor (which is my case) the F5 blows the F6. The F5 even destroys the AF gearing of 3rd party discount glass.

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No doubt that the F6 is more modern design and more (CS) silent/refined. No doubt that the F5 has the true solid Pro construction, this was not inherited by the F6, it was only inherited by the D1.

Some F5 units have well surpased 1 millon shots, in battlelfield conditions... I bought one of those at bargain price to see, it looked like it had fallen from a plane in flight, and still it was operating like new.
 
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But the F6 was made for an era that had Pro news and sport photographers migrated to D1 which mostly had the F5 body construction and durability.

The F6 was designed during a time period in which most professional and enthusiast photographers still used film. News and sport photographers aren't the only professional groups. I know from camera distributors at that time that in the first years lots of professional wedding, portrait, nature and travel photographers have bought the F6. In the "Nikon News" print magazine (for the German speaking markets) there was a report about a nature photographer who used the F6 for his arctic travels because of its robustness and reliability under extrem conditions.

Basicly the F6 is the F100 concept with F5 features upgraded, but lacking the solid pro construction and durability, and also lacking some top Pro refinements like interchangeable viewfinders, weather protected, which were an absolute challenge to design and to manufacture.

Sorry, but again completely wrong. Has nothing to do with the facts.
Interchangeable viewfinders have been abandoned by all manufactures in their professional cameras long before ( 14 - 19 years) the F6 was introduced. Nikon abadoned it 1999 with the D1. This design was abondoned because professional photographers and the other customer bases much prefered the better weather sealed and in the long run more robust fixed prism design.

The F6 not only has a 100% pro construction and reliability, it is also significantly improved compared to the F5 in that regard: Better shutter reliability, improved weather sealing, better rubber coating design just to name some as examples. E.g. the F5 has the weakness that the rubber coating is loosening over time, no contact to the body anymore. Lots of F5s are suffering from it, the more you use it, the more often it happens. My F5 has that problem, too. Already during the F5 production time fixing F5s with loose rubber coatings was a regular task of the Nikon service.

And you definitely should read what a Nikon designer has to say about it, because he makes it very clear that Nikon wanted to surpass the F5 with the F6:

Quotes:
"And we want to make the F6 the best camera in every aspect."

"We already had a high-speed, high-performance camera, the F5, in our lineup. In developing the F6, we intended to create a camera giving users even more of what they want than the F5 does. The development concept for the F5 was “high speed and high performance.” With the F6, we aimed to offer the functions of the F5, and also enhance the advantages of “finesse and practicality.”

"Even the sounds of shutter-release and other operations provide a special sensation of quality. So what I mean by “finesse” is the comfortable, reassuring feel of flawless operation transmitted through these three senses."

"In developing the F6, we were very attentive to maximizing operating comfort, even when the camera is subjected to use under very tough conditions."

"I must say that we reexamined all materials, although they had been used successfully in our existing cameras. Every single part was inspected from every aspect. We were not simply content with the current state of the art. Our attitude was to look for something better in order to create the best camera."

"I know that we achieved this because we were afforded a longer period than usual to develop the best camera that we could create."

"Does the F6 have larger buttons?
Yes, we decided to do that for the sake of easier operations. Operations can be performed using gloved hands, as we assumed that the F6 would be used in cold places, given the camera’s supreme environment-proof performance.
We put the priority on ease of operation, and made the buttons large and lockless."

"How have mechanics been improved?
The F5 successfully minimized shutter lag. We carried this superior characteristic over to the F6, and also tried to maximize the finesse of the shutter. Specifically, we succeeded in our efforts to reduce vibration and improve the quality of mechanical sounds, especially from the moment the shutter is pressed to the moment it is released. This was achieved by changing the way the shutter is fixed to the camera body. Normally, the shutter is fixed to the body using screws. But with the F6, we use a floating mechanism, in which the shutter is hung with rubber. This rubber absorbs vibration when the shutter is released."

"Not only did we minimize vibration, we spared no effort to keep operation quiet. To let users concentrate on shooting, we wanted to eradicate any unnecessary sounds as much as possible, as well as minimize vibration. We were determined to follow a principle of keeping operating sound, even those heard only by the photographer, to an absolute minimum."

"Materials used for the F6 shutter-release button have been newly developed. The shutter film material has also been changed for enhanced durability. The strictest Nikon standards have been applied to make the F6 a most reliable and durable camera."

"The design of F6 looks as if it is a definitive “standard,” compared with the F5.
I am confident that we have developed it carefully and conscientiously, making practicality the first priority, while maintaining and even improving upon the high performance of the F5."

"Would you like to offer a closing comment?
I ask customers to try holding the F6, look into the viewfinder, and release the shutter. I am confident that the F6 has achieved a new peak in its mechanics. But you cannot fully appreciate what the F6 can actually do, or how you can use it to greatest advantage, just by looking at its specifications table."

As someone who is using the F6 for more than a decade now, including professional use (wedding, portrait, advertizing shots), and as someone who is also using the F100, F4s, F5, I can conpletely confirm what is said by the Nikon designer about the superior performance.


and... what about the isolated fim transport ???? this is a core feature...

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The F6 offers 8 fps like the F5. And in addition it surpasses the F5 with more silent operation, which is important in professional applications like wildlife, wedding and press photography. Film transport is definitely overall better designed in the F6.

It depends on how you use the AF, if using S with the internal motor (which is my case) the F5 blows the F6.

You have never used a F6, and you have never done a direct comparison test by yourself. Otherwise you wouldn't spread this prejudice-based misinformation. The F5 does not "blow" the F6 at all in AF. The F5 is just louder and worse vibration dampened in operation, so that some amateur fools who don't know how to do a proper test get fooled and get the impression it is faster. But it is not.

The professional construction, robustness and reliability of the F6 was a main design focus of the engineering team (see the quotes above). Therefore it was also presented with a strong focus in the F6 information brochure. It would take to much place to upload the whole brochure, therefore here just as examples I've uploaded some pages about the extraordinary precision and robustness (click on the thumbnail below, the other pictures will follow in separate posts because of technical upload restrictions).

You like your F5. That is fine, and I can completely understand that. Because I like my F5, too.
But you have never used the F6 by yourself. And your opinion about it is just based on prejudicies and misinformation / lies spread about it on the internet by armchair 'experts' who have not ever used a F6 either.

Regards,
Henning
 

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I wonder: Do we have enough users here who bought a F6 having owned a F5 to reply to the following question: Having bought the F6 do you now regret it on the basis that the F5 was as good or better and does the F6 now lie unused on your shelf

This is the "acid" test, isn't it?

I don't use either but I'd be surprised if Nikon didn't take the opportunity to improve a number of aspects. Isn't that what you do when you launch new models otherwise why bother?

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I wonder: Do we have enough users here who bought a F6 having owned a F5 to reply to the following question: Having bought the F6 do you now regret it on the basis that the F5 was as good or better and does the F6 now lie unused on your shelf

As now explained lots of times here, the F6 has surpassed the F5 in all objective technical and test-capable criteria. The F6 was designed to perform better than the F5. That has been its mission, as Nikon of course wanted to sell additional camera volume. So you have to offer enough additional benefits to your customers compared to the forerunner model.
If someone subjectively feels more comfortable with the F5 or F4 and is more bond to it, fine. Nothing to say against that. The choice of cameras has for quite a lot of photographers something to do with subjectivity and feelings.
I have been so satiesfied with my first F6, that I've bought a second, additional one (also brand new and with MB-40) some years later. Never regretted the two purchases for any second.

Here on photrio are too few F6 users that you could draw any robust statistical data conclusions. But on facebook there is the F6 users group with more than 1.400 members. And there the huge majority is very satiesfied with their cameras. If someone is selling one, than almost always because he either needs money because he is in a personal financial crisis, or he is going medium format completely and needs the money for the medium format gear.
And then sometimes there are the 'gearheads' and 'camerahoppers' who never bond to any camera at all and love buying gear, using it for 3-6 months, and then hopping on to the next gear, and so on.

As a F90X, F100, F4s, F5 and F6 user for many years, my personal recommendation is:
If you are a student, are a low-income guy, jobless, broke, need just another back-up body or use less than 20 rolls of 35mm film per year (e.g. as you are primarily a medium format or large format shooter and want to keep it that way in the future), then go for a F90X, F100, F4s or F5.
And buy the wanted body as soon as possible, as long as the prices are so extremely low for these cameras. These models are currently real bargains. But that will probably change in the future.

And when you are a professional photographer using 35mm film, or a serious 35mm photographer who is shooting more than 20 rolls p.a., or you want the best 35mm Nikon SLR ever designed, or you need the new features of the F6 for your photography, then go for the F6. And then you should also consider buying a brand new one with guarantee.Then you are safe for the coming 30-40 years,maybe even more. And using a F6 over that time span makes it an extremely cheap and price-worthy camera, too.

Best regards,
Henning
 

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But you have never used the F6 by yourself. And your opinion about it is just based on prejudicies and misinformation / lies spread about it on the internet by armchair 'experts' who have not ever used a F6 either.

Please moderate your wording. COVID age stress ? :smile:

If you want to know it I don't own an F6, but I've used it. I had one borrowed for 3 months (2 years ago) to learn if I should get one. My conclusion was that it was more silent/smooth but it added nothing to my photography, now a used F6 is cheap, but I prefer having a true F5 in my hands, it works better for me except for the i-TTL flash (ratio mode). If you prefer the F6 that's fine. I you make better photos with the F6 or if you like it more then use it, no problem, in fact many people thinks like you, but personally I prefer the F5 and I have a solid personal criterion to prefer it.

Let me tell you why I prefer the F5 to photograph moving kids (which is for what I need the F5), I use S AF mode locked in the central point, I nail focus (in the eye usually, shallow DOF ) where I want then I retain focus and later I frame fast to shot. Usually I use the 50mm 1.8 or the 1.4 that uses the internal motor, that focusing is more snap than with the F6, I don't like how the F6 reaches focus, with the F5 nearly I have instant focus so I even frame instantly after (mid) pressing without having to check if the focus is done.

If I had to rely in multiple auto focus points then perhaps I would prefer the F6, but I alwyas use the central point because I want to know exactly where I nail focus, and the F5 focuses faster my 50mm lenses.


Sorry, but again completely wrong. Has nothing to do with the facts.
Interchangeable viewfinders have been abandoned by all manufactures in their professional cameras long before ( 14 - 19 years) the F6 was introduced. Nikon abadoned it 1999 with the D1. This design was abondoned because professional photographers and the other customer bases much prefered the better weather sealed and in the long run more robust fixed prism design.

No F5 had a problem with the finder sealing, never, this is an exquisite/expensive titanium contruction that's totally robust. The F6 and the D1 reduce costs in that, but the F5 still sports that top notch feature. Of course, not everybody needs it and it has a cost.

If the finder is hit by a bullet, sharpnel or the like (and the photographer survives), or a dozer runs on it, you simply replace the finder without service repair.

You may not value that, but Interchangeable viewfinders are totally Pro refinement, an expensive one. In particular I've used a (borrowed, I'm poor) Nikon DW-31 6x Magnification Finder for close-up work, today I would like to have that in the DSLR.



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The F6 was designed during a time period in which most professional and enthusiast photographers still used film.

In that exact period Nikon was designing the D1, then new true Pro design that was made on the F5 armored body design, not the F6 one.

The F6 integrated electronic features similar to the D2, but not it's fat armored body.

The F6 was designed during a time period in which most professional and enthusiast photographers still used film.

In that exact period Nikon was designing the D1, the new true Pro design that was made on the F5 armored body design, not the F6 one.


Already during the F5 production time fixing F5s with loose rubber coatings was a regular task of the Nikon service My F5 has that problem

A recommendation, this is a $1, 5min fix:

Use an insulin syringe to inject your favourite (suitable) glue, and put something on it to make pressure until glue works. I did that with the F5 of a friend and it worked perfectly.

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Replacing the rubber can be nasty, but a loose rubber is easily fixed.


And in addition it surpasses the F5 with more silent operation, which is important in professional applications like wildlife, wedding and press photography.

This is important to shot in funerals and in hospitals. :smile:

In a wedding the F5 says "hey guys, I'm here", the photographer is more present, subjects play more attention, and other people moves out and you have more room to do the job. Inside the church the F6 was better, like with the funerals, as CS mode is more quiet in the F6.



Film transport is definitely overall better designed in the F6.

I don't think. IMO it's a cheaper one.
 
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Please moderate your wording. COVID age stress ? :smile:

You should better moderate your wording. You have started a bashing and you have spread misinformations like that the F6 has no pro-grade construction, no proper weather sealing, is only a F100 derivate etc.. I've just given the evidence that you are completely wrong on all that.

I had one borrowed for 3 months (2 years ago) to learn if I should get one.

So you may have played with one for a short time. I am using it for about 12 years now. Mine has been used by me in professional wedding and portrait work, for advertizing jobs, in scientific applications, in nature, wildlife photography and travel photography. Who of us two has more experience with it :wink:?

....but I prefer having a true F5 in my hands, it works better for me except for the i-TTL flash (ratio mode).

As I have said several times here already, if you or anyone else is prefering the F5 because he is more bond to it, that's absolutely fine. I would never say anything against it. Because camera choice is also for lots of photographers a subjective or emotional thing. And as also already explained by me several times, I also like my F5 (and F90X, F100, F4s).
But you have pimped your threads here by giving misinformations about the F6. And that is definitely not o.k., because members who don't know it so far, but are interested in it, want and need facts.

Let me tell you why I prefer the F5 to photograph moving kids (which is for what I need the F5), I use S AF mode locked in the central point, I nail focus (in the eye usually, shallow DOF ) where I want then I retain focus and later I frame fast to shot. Usually I use the 50mm 1.8 or the 1.4 that uses the internal motor, that focusing is more snap than with the F6, I don't like how the F6 reaches focus, with the F5 nearly I have instant focus so I even frame instantly after (mid) pressing without having to check if the focus is done.
If I had to rely in multiple auto focus points then perhaps I would prefer the F6, but I alwyas use the central point because I want to know exactly where I nail focus, and the F5 focuses faster my 50mm lenses.

I am using the 1.8/50D as well,and the AF-S 1.8/50.. I cannot confirm the performance difference you are discribing. None of my two F6s have any problems with that.

No F5 had a problem with the finder sealing, never,

Nikon service has told me otherwise. They had cases, especially with heavy use (lots of changes) and bad weather/climate conditions.

If the finder is hit by a bullet, sharpnel or the like (and the photographer survives), or a dozer runs on it, you simply replace the finder without service repair.

O.k. you want to have a look at these 0.0001% likely circumstances. If your bullet, sharpnel or whatsoever hits the vertical grip part of the F5, it's done. With the F6, only the MB-40 is done, the camera itself will be fine. You just replace the MB-40. Or continue shooting without it. So F5 and F6 are on par concerning these extreme cases. 1:1 draw :cool:.

You may not value that, but Interchangeable viewfinders are totally Pro refinement,

I have never said that I don't value it. And I have also never said that they are not useful in some applications. But you have said that the F6 is not a pro-grade camera because it has a fixed prism. And that is nonsense, because the huge majority of pro photographers have given up using changeable finders decades ago. That is the reason why the whole camera industry stopped this design concept long ago. If you say the F6 is not pro-grade because of its fixed prism, you also have to say that about Canon EOS 1 DX Mk. III and all its foreunners since 1989, about the D6 and all its forerunners since 1999, about the Sony A9 II and all its forerunners down to Minolta back in 1985. The Pentax K-1 and all its forerunners dated back since 1990. And about all Leica and Contax top-of-the line prof. cameras, which never had this option at all.

In that exact period Nikon was designing the D1,

No, the D1 was designed five years before the F6. And if you compare both side-by-side, you will see the big differences, and the huge improvements of the F6 in mechanics, ergonomics, AF and metering.

Replacing the rubber can be nasty, but a loose rubber is easily fixed.

Unfortunately it is often not that easy, because the rubber can warp / buckle / go out of shape (I hope at least one of that is the right technical term to describe the phenomenon; my English is very bad). Exactly that has happened meanwhile two times with my F5, and it isn't an easy fix unfortunately.

This is important to shot in funerals and in hospitals. :smile:

Well, the more silent operation of the F6 is useful in weddings (e.g. ceremony in church), animal and wildlife applications, certain press photography cases.

Regards,
Henning
 

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I have an F6, and I like to tease Sirius about the F100. But I'm not obsessed with these cameras!
The postings above suggest a case of cabin fever!

These things are just cameras. Not a cure for the world's ills.
 

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You have started a bashing and you have spread misinformations like that the F6 has no pro-grade construction, , is only a F100 derivate etc..

False, what I've said is that the F5 is more more pro garde built than the F6, the F6 is pro grade but the F5 is more pro grade.


no proper weather sealing

False, I've not said that at all. Where have I said that ?

What I've said is that the F5 Interchangeable finder is totally sealed and robust. You cited drawbacks of the Interchangeable Finders in general, ok... but the F5 one has none of the drawbacks you cited, just it added amazing flexibility for some dedicated applications.


is only a F100 derivate etc..

False, I've not said that.

I've said exactly : "Basicly the F6 is the F100 concept with F5 features upgraded, but lacking the solid pro construction and durability, and also lacking some top Pro refinements like interchangeable viewfinders, weather protected, which were an absolute challenge to design and to manufacture."

Let me cite Ken Rockwell:

Compared to the F5, "The newer Nikon F6 (2004-today) is a slower, weaker, smaller and lighter camera intended for enthusiastic amateurs, as opposed to the full-time working pros for whom the F5 is designed."

Of the F6 he says:

"I love my F6. The F6 is the best 35mm SLR I've ever used."


IMO both things are true, the F6 has some electronic refinements from being a 8 years more modern model, it has has a pro built, but the F5 is more Pro built. How much difference? well... a similar difference than between a D850 and D5, both are Pro grade, but the D5 is for the battlefield.

This is the F5 armor, the solid pro built I was mentioning:

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Amazingly, the F6 sync is 1/250 while the F5 one is 1/300, not much a difference, but this suggests that mechanic components in the F5 are slightly better. Have you ever seen an F5 and a F6 disassembled ?
 

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Well, the truth is that we can get a lot of fun with the F6, the F100 or the F5.

Nobody may experience severe limitations from any of those. We are fortunate to have that kind of reliable gear available at moderated prices. Even all those cameras are able to start VR function of modern lenses, and all are absolute beasts in the right hands.

We should not complain.

I use both the F100 and the F5. The F5 is better for action and it has a more refined meter, the F100 weights less. The F6 is the most refined one very clearly, but the F5 may be better for action depending on personal preferences about AF. Any of those will do the job.

Henning said that he preferred the F6 for Pro usage, I understand him perfectly, this was very consistent decision. The F5 is a love-or-hate matter, me... I love it, I made "impossible" shots with it, and got my (low prestige) prizes with it.
 
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I was waiting if somebody will quote that ass.

Instead, me I'm very grateful because I've learned a lot in his web site. For example I learned there that ED glass is suitable in many designs to help avoiding secondary chromatic aberration, this is green-magenta fringes remaining after correcting primary chromatic aberration, did you knew that ?

Making a living from reviewing gear is not easy, you have to attract a lot of internet traffic, so some comments have some salt or contain personal opinions, but offered technical information is perfectly accurate, still practical information is more personally explained, but you know that forehand.

Best reviewers are those who tell us what we want to hear, isn't it ? :smile:


Rockwell's web site contains a an huge vault of information, with many side by side fair comparisons that allow to learn what really matters or not. There is an insane effort in gathering all that information.


See for example this Nikon F mount 50mm ccomparison, it took two months of testing:

https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/50-comparison/index.htm

Just follow all the links in the TEST DETAILS AND EXAMPLES, 16 parameters were tested:

Bokeh
Chromatic Aberrations
Cold Weather

Color Rendition
Contrast, Flare and Ghosts
Distortion
Falloff
Film Cameras, Use on
Film versus Digital Image Examples
Mechanics, Materials and Build Quality

Optical Specifications and Design
Resolution Myth, The
Sharpness
Sharpness versus Aperture
Sizes and Weights
VR versus fast apertures



This is not made by an "ass", but by somebody sporting a deep understanding about what he is reviewing. This is my opinion, YMMV.
 

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