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Dr Croubie

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wow, where to begin?
First dslr, 2 months old doing not-so-high-iso for not-so-long exposures, about 10 dead pixels showing up like glitter on a teenage girl's face. I didn't care if there were 18 million good ones, for that price I deserved 0 dead ones, so sent it back under warranty repair via the retailer. Tested it in the shop, straight back because they didn't fix them all. 3 times. Finally it came back good. Few months later they started showing up again, so I gave up and started using Delta 3200 instead. No dead pixels on my scanner (although the dust can be a bitch).

Mamiya 645AF, the 'safety retract' (when you take off the film back, the shutter opens and mirror flips up to protect them) has never worked since i got it (second hand, but i'm too lazy to complain and it was cheap enough). Except when it did work, when I was shooting, it just wouldn't let me shoot and it was all interlocked and wouldn't even let me take the back off. A few precisions thuds with a fist got it back to working without losing a frame. Oh yeah, and it also sometimes decides halfway through a roll that it doesn't have a film in, so winds forward and resets to 1, losing a few frames at the end of the roll (not sure if it's just one back or the camera). Did that again tonight trying out my new 35/3.5 a few hours ago.

EOS 3, worst problem was that it re-wound after 12 frames, on a home-rolled film that I swore had 36 or so frames. I re-loaded it and it again got to 12 frames, so I presumed it was actually a roll of 12, that I'd just forgot to mark it as 12, so I just devved it. 12 good shots and 24 blank ones came out. (but still, I probably just wound the cartridge wrong). That, and it stops focussing with my 40/2.8 Pancake, but that's a known bug in the lens (and I don't have a $4k digital to upload new firmware to the lens).

Kiev 60 worked fine for the first few rolls, then one day decided not to wind a full stroke (or I loaded it wrong, a high possibility). Lost the first few frames taking shots on the backing paper, the rest were all run together (645-shape or so salvageable), and 2/3 of the film was blank.

Kiev 88CM has actually been quite reliable, despite all the warnings and horror stories I read before I bought (second-hand for <$100), but I borked up the dark-slide seal-thingy on a back a few weeks ago putting the slide in, so now it probably leaks. Got about 5 backs coming from fleabay as we speak, at least 1 I know doesn't work so it can sacrifice some parts to fix the first.

Nothing else, really. My P6, Bessas, Retinas, even my Agat 18k have never given me a problem. Neither has that Nikonos V I bought from a workmate 6 months ago, but then all I've done is load it and not shot anything, so I won't know until I do...
 

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Minolta Auto-cord, purchased new, shutter failed after about 2 yrs. The repair cost quoted at local camera stores was almost the price of the camera so traded it in. Nikon FG, purchase used, still use in on the one manual speed. Had a few others that purchased used and needed CLA, such as Rollie SL66, and yes, had it done and kept it for awhile. I worry about my Minox GT, still works though.
 

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^Instead, sell them to Ralph... :smile: He'll take them.

-J


I'm thinking instead of asking Doug if he can reverse the switch so that UP is ON instead of OFF. But he'll probably want money for that...
 

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On the other hand, the Minolta XE-7 has a most unfortunately-placed power switch, directly under my right thumb. Too often I lift the camera to my face and find it won't work as I've inadvertently shut the thing off without trying. I'm ready to drop both of mine in the lake.

Really? I never have that problem. Ironically, I've found the XE-7 is great at making you forget to turn it off! You all know what I'm talking about!

Solid camera though (when the advance doesn't play up).
 

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Vintage mechanical cameras will run okay forever (shutter accuracy maybe a little iffy)

No failures on my clock (if you don't count my $10 Nikon N2000, which occasionally does not fire when the shutter is pressed), but my dad was a camera collector

2 brand new in box Rolleiflex SL35Es, dead on arrival
1 jammed Rolleiflex SL 35 (shame because the lenses are so nice)
1 abused Pentax 67II where the electro magnets wouldn't hold the shutter open, resulting in it not cocking
a bunch of Graflex XL and Linhof Super Rollex backs that never spaced correctly
Linhof Press 70s that never synced properly (mechanism did not wind and cock correctly)

As a former camera repair tech, he tried, but none of these have successfully been revived
 

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A few years ago, I was taking pictures with a Voigtlander R2a and the advance lever stripped all the gears inside. Watching it flop around uselessly was disgusting so I tossed it. On the other hand my original Nikon F from the 70's is still going strong, I was using it just this week. I've never had a single problem with that camera.
 

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A FE10 where the shutter caved in. I sent it for repair and then sold it.
A F100 where the back door clips was broken due to rough handling of the bag the camera was in. I bought a new door and put it on.
A point and shoot Ricoh GR1 where the shutter seized to fire. Sent to Ricoh Germany for repair and they estimated the repair to cost 200 euros or 50 euros for them to send it back. I told them to keep it. This, the Ricoh, I haven't forgiven.
 

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The only camera failures I've encountered were with 3 different Goodwill finds. A Canon AF35M which exposes about a stop too hot but is otherwise fully functional; a Minolta AF2-M with a weak motor which can't wind on past about frame 15-20; and a Ricoh XR-2 which had a jammed shutter and dead meter, both of which I got working but the shutter turned out to be capping at higher speeds due to oil on the blades and jammed again after a couple of rolls.

I can forgive the Canon because the overexposing meter is an easy problem to work around.

I can't forgive the Minolta. I'd take another just like it, perhaps, but this particular example is unforgiven for its failing. I like everything about it as a simple P&S camera goes and shot some nice frames with it, but I can't cope with the flaky wind-on.

The Ricoh I can forgive, but only because it failed again quickly enough that I hadn't committed to buying any lenses for it, and because it came with a nice M42 mount Mamiya 55mm f/1.4 on an adapter. Sadly not the official Pentax adapter, just a cheap knock-off.
 

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I must lead a charmed life, because on reflection in 61 years of photography I have never had a camera that crapped out on me, and most of my cameras were bought second hand, although not from auction sites because I don't buy stuff I haven't had my hands on and tried out, having worked for more than 20 years in camera stores and testing second hand equipment that customers wanted to sell or part exchange makes me very reluctant to buy things sight unseen, when especially when I see the cameras on eBay that are described as mint that look like they have been used as hockey pucks.
 

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Hello, Anyone,

I've had several failures over recent years, and all were my own fault. Every one was an attempt to fire a battery-powered camera with dead or no batteries in the camera; a Pentax ZX-M jammed in a dry-firing attempt but came clear when fresh batteries were installed in the auxiliary grip; some jams didn't clear with fresh batteries installed [Pentax ME-Super, Pentax ME-F, both when dry-firing, so not affecting any shooting sessions], and a Canon T90 that I'd left unattended with film and batteries for way too long came alive with a replacement set of batteries, but discharged the replacements sitting idle for just a couple of days, and now won't power up even after I hit the camera body's power contacts with a wire brush and 91% isopropyl alcohol.

Thanks and regards,
Vince
 

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Couple of Minolta SRTs, meter failures. Minolta XD5, film winding mechanism. Switched to Nikon FMs, they are all still running, but 1 is missing a film rewinding crank for some reason. That made us a Nikon family, 2 of my offspring both shoot D type Nikons and I also have a Nikon S2 that I will never part with.
 

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I have a pair of camera models that I don't trust. Fujica's AX-3, which I just received another copy of, is notoriously bad. This one has several blinking LEDs in the viewfinder when there should only be one. And Pentax - should be ashamed of the ME Super (and probably all subvarieties of same) because I've had like, 4 of them, and they've all let me down. I have one off at Eric's now for resurrection. That may be my last.
 

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Nikonos II, main spring in the shutter/ film advance mechanism snapped.
 

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Not really a full failure, but very frustrating -- yesterday I loaded some respooled Kodak movie film that I had managed to get my hands on into my N80 (wanted shoot some nice shots of my girlfriend before she left for a month on a work trip), but it jammed after the first shot. At first I thought I had misloaded it and it was my fault, but decided to waste the first couple frames by opening the back to check, and I hadn't misloaded it. So I tried rewinding it to try again but it rewound the feeder all the way into the roll so now I'll have to find someone with a film puller. Not a huge disaster, but a frustrating inconvenience nonetheless...
 

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Minolta X700 film transport, later I switched to Nikon because Minolta changed the bajonett on there cameras for AF!
This was for me the main reason to switch to Nikon!!!
 

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I don't think I've ever had a camera that failed. If I did, there would be no blame, therefore no forgiveness - as a camera is not sentient and has no volition.
 

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It's usually the owner that's "failed" to have the camera properly maintained, if you buy a 25+ year old camera of unknown history from an auction site and you expect it to work reliably for another 25 years without any cleaning lubrication and adjustment is I.M.O. foolish. If I buy a new old camera that want to shoot seriously with I factor into the price I pay the cost of a C.L.A. by my local camera repairer, if I can't afford it I don't buy it, because I'm a user not a collector, my cameras are just a means to an end, not an end in themselves, and I don't want a house full of unusable cameras.
 
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E. von Hoegh

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It's usually the owner that's "failed" to have the camera properly maintained, if you buy a 25+ year old camera of unknown history from an auction site and you expect it to work reliably for another 25 years without any cleaning lubrication and adjustment is I.M.O. foolish. If I buy a new old camera that want to shoot seriously with I factor into the price I pay the cost of a C.L.A. by my local camera repairer, if I can't afford it I don't buy it, because I'm a user not a collector, my cameras are just a means to an end, not an end in themselves, and I don't want a house full of unusable cameras.

+100.:smile:
 
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