Where to find Sodium Bisulfite?

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I'm having a hard time locating reasonably priced Sodium Bisulfite for a couple of old formulas I want to try. Photo Formulary...nope. Artcraft...never heard of it. Does anyone out there ever use it, and where do you get it? Alternatively, is there a substitute/conversion available?
 

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Both B&H and Amazon seem to be offering it… interestingly, OF branded.
 
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Amazon seems to have only solution or 2 ounces at a time, which I suppose could work. Didn't bother to check B&H (duh!)
Edit: Ok, that is weird. PF doesn't offer it on their site, but B&H has there's cheap. Thanks, Brian!
 

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I don’t know what janitors do with it, but I saw a listing for a “bucketful” at a janitors supply company.

Hope B&H works out for you!
 

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Try looking for sodium metabisulfite at home brewing suppliers. It's used to sterilise brewing equipment and is functionally identical to bisulfite.
 

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It's hard to find in Europe, but you don't have to - just use Sodium metabisulfite . Even as far as I can remember, in the Kodak formulas where they mention bisulfite, it is actually metabisulfite.
 

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Sodium Bisulfite is Sodium Metabisulfite with an extra molecule of water: Na2S2O5 + H2O <===> 2 NaHSO3. Since, unlike the other, Sodium Metabisulfite is a lot more stable, this is the compound typically sold.
 

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Sodium Bisulfite is Sodium Metabisulfite with an extra molecule of water: Na2S2O5 + H2O <===> 2 NaHSO3.

What does that mean for measuring? You should then need less sodium metabisulfite to equal whatever amount of sodium bisulfite listed?
 

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In a post years ago I supplied a link to an article by Ryuji Suzuki about bisulfite/metabisulfite (around 2008). I have found it on the wayback machine and here is the full text:

{Moderator edit: the quote above first appeared on the forum here: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/metabisulfite-in-pmk.76197/post-1052232
However, the source provided in that post is no longer correct.}
 
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Nothing is better than a well-written research paper first thing in the morning with a good cup of coffee. That should be bookmarked in the formulas section do easy future finding!
 

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What does that mean for measuring? You should then need less sodium metabisulfite to equal whatever amount of sodium bisulfite listed?

Since the real Sodium Bisulfite is hideously expensive, I would assume, that all photographic formulas referring to it actually mean Sodium Metabisulfite. Therefore I don't think, that you will have to do a weight conversion.
 

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I think the upshot is that the majority of what's labelled sodium bisulfite is actually sodium metabisulfite, especially if it's reasonably priced.
 

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Bostick and Sullivan carries sodium bisulfite and is reasonably priced.

They also list the CAS number for their product: 7681-57-4. You probably know, where this goes ...
 
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