.....Why the heck doesn't/can't Koadak or Kodak Alaris tell their potential customers about their plans and status. That's just bizarre.
Then, apparently, professional and amateur still film photographers aren't in the list of potential customers.I'm sure they have.
But remember that the film is still being formulated. Way to early for anybody to make any promises.
Jim B.
Then, apparently, professional and amateur still film photographers aren't in the list of potential customers.
Where is this information you think they've divulged? I've seen two: the initial Jan CES release and the recent quarterly earnings report. Neither says much.
Not looking for promises as much as authoritative source of information. The internet buzz is interesting but almost none is substantiated by anything more than oft-repeated rumor, speculation and a few "clandestine meetings with insiders".
And while I totally agree that folks need to be real careful about what they say regarding R&D projects... this kind of revival shouldn't be rocket science for a company witk Kodaks history. Maybe a production problem due to old equipment or production run downsizing issues... or a diminishing source/supplier issues... but I find it hard to believe that they are struggling too much with an emulsion formula.
Then, apparently, professional and amateur still film photographers aren't in the list of potential customers.........
A lot of people work in Rochester. A few of them work at Kodak. For all we know the source flips burgers at a McDonald's...in Rochester.From a discussion at filmwasters.com :
... It will come back for medium format too, according to a source working in Rochester ...
Reply #62 http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=8989.msg126032#msg126032
I would like to believe that ...
So, yes, Mr Mouse... I completely overlooked that aspect. How dumb of me. You are right... they are working with one arm tied behind their back for lack of the talent they once had. Thanks for pointing that out.
... and I should have been more sensitive to that issue since the average age at my company is mid-50's and several engineering functions I manage are getting impacted by retirement and death. We hire many bright minds to replace them but the loss of experience and history is devastating.
I suppose what I was assuming is that Kodak processes are documented in a cookbook fashion so that replication would be easier. But I should have known better than assume either the degree of documentation or the ease of replication.
At this stage of the game, they’re not.
Does Honda tell it’s dealers what vehicles they intend to sell in the future? Take it from me, they don’t.
I'd be willing to bet that most of the film related staffing at Eastman Kodak was reduced in the years leading up to the bankruptcy, rather at the time of bankruptcy itself.
PE has posted on numerous occasions in the last 10+ years that there was a real problem in that no new people were being trained with respect to the research, development and manufacture of film.
Why the heck doesn't/can't Koadak or Kodak Alaris tell their potential customers about their plans and status. That's just bizarre.
Why companies have websites, if they communicate via twitter?
When Kodak went bankrupt, how many film chemists/engineers were lost? When Kodak transitioned over from a film company to a commercial printing company, how many film chemists/engineers were lost?
Very often a lot of company talent is lost during huge events like this. Considering Kodak has done nothing new with film for many many many years, I would suggest that a lot of talent has been lost and this may be why resurrecting Ektachrome is such a challenge for today's VERY different Kodak.
I just wonder why, when Kodak gives a general indication of when E6 might be available if everything goes well and after tests have been conducted successfully, every word get discussed and analysed to death, and they get generally criticised for not being more specific. Ferrania promises time after time actual dates (not just for colour but now for B&W ad well) and fails totally in meeting them, and yet any comment on this brings the wrath of God down from the Ferrania accolites here.
Maybe Kodak still have a more pragmatic grasp of what can go wrong and what delays can occur in bringing a film back into production in consistent high quality, a finished reliable version, and a realistic commercial manner ? IDK, just saying.
Why the heck doesn't/can't Koadak or Kodak Alaris tell their potential customers about their plans and status. That's just bizarre.
I believe that!This is pure speculation, but Kodak may not be updating anything about Ektachrome because they are still not sure that they can do it, or perhaps they know that they can but not when yet.
PE
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