Put THAT on your business card!
When is it ok to call myself a photographer?
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Put THAT on your business card!
Yeah you hear that more often these days. Kinda BS if you ask me. Some point and shoot camera's deliver damn good photo's these days. Ah well Congrats your are a professional!
This should answer your question.
My apologies if it has been posted before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TFPd6WjuXk
My apologies if it has been posted before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TFPd6WjuXk
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London Underground apparently pulled this stunt recently when they were giving tours of an abandoned subway station. They had a sign out front saying that "Digital SLR" cameras were banned from the tour. I read one account in the aftermath of that from someone who managed to get a film SLR past the London Underground staff at the entrance on the basis of it not being a digital camera but they'd changed their minds during the tour because the entrance staff were seen turning away people with film SLRs later in the day.
The British Journal of Photography's got a couple of articles about this mess on their website. The actual sign banning digital SLRs read "Due to their combination of high quality sensor and high quality resolution, digital SLR cameras are unfortunately not permitted inside the station", and London Underground tried to backtrack on that and claim that it was really a health and safety consideration due to the number of steps in the staircase in the station etc. for people lugging heavy equipment. That has nothing to do with film sensor quality and resolution and people were speculating that the ban was to try and stop people from taking high quality pictures of the station to protect the London Transport museum's giftshop book and postcard sales. That makes more sense as an explanation for the SLR camera ban than London Underground attempting to claim that lugging all those film grains or megapixels up and down the stairs is a health and safety hazard.
Ignoring the nonsense excuses offered up, I suspect it's the same with the concert as it was with the London Underground tour and other places where similar stupid SLR bans exist: they'll let you take pictures, but they won't let you take pictures that might be too good in case it cuts into media sales.
Yeah, I've seen a similar restriction in a clock museum here in Iowa. No photography allowed. Why not? Look in the gift shop at all the photo books they have for sale! They don't get the fact that most people coming to a clock museum really don't want a precious keepsake photo collection of all the wonderful clocks - they just want a picture or two of the ones they like. I was somewhat amused looking at one of the books they had for sale, and I kid you not, the thing had more dust on it than a mid-Winter negative.
Wolfeye - "Yeah, I've seen a similar restriction in a clock museum here in Iowa. No photography allowed."
I recently exhibited three of my photographs in an art gallery here in Lincoln and I was astounded to see a notice saying "No photography allowed". Fortunately they did not mean on the walls.
I recently exhibited three of my photographs in an art gallery here in Lincoln and I was astounded to see a notice saying "No photography allowed". Fortunately they did not mean on the walls.
How do you think boot leg movie's and concert videos get out? If security/management were smart, they'd stop all these point and shoot video capable cameras, and quit paying attention to the guys with 'pro rigs'. At the very least, the guy with the pro rig presumably has a respect for copyright and intellectual property laws.
Good point... If only it were universally true
. Now that 'pro rigs' can be had so cheap (used 5D's only go for, how much now?) anyone can look like they care... I could name a few people I know who I should start ordering some of that Fauxtographor for!Ralph- are you serious? I looked at your portfolio. You're not a photographer. You're a damn good photographer. You have more talent than an awful lot of "professional" photographers I have seen.
That said, there might be more work consistent with your vision in art instruction and gallery work than there is in studio portraits, weddings and such. I guess it depends on whether you WANT to do those things. I would say you're a fine art photographer, not a school portrait or wedding photog and definitely not a GWAC. (Guy With A Camera)
That said, there might be more work consistent with your vision in art instruction and gallery work than there is in studio portraits, weddings and such. I guess it depends on whether you WANT to do those things. I would say you're a fine art photographer, not a school portrait or wedding photog and definitely not a GWAC. (Guy With A Camera)
Well I wouldn't know about that but apparently it is ok to have crappy video's out there by the Parkinson masses (I don't mean to offend anyone with the Parkinson disease) then a decent video that does the concert/museum/whatever actually good. Only on the assumption that people will buy stuff that is on sale if they can't photograph on site.
If they are really smart the'd let sign people with SLR a relaese that the organisation get a copy of all the good stuff that has been shot. So problem solved. Win/Win situation.
Again on topic: I don't think anybody will be offended if Ralph calls himself a photographer on his business card. People who know his work will probably say that that would be an understatement.
When you buy your first iPhone.
Kent in SD
Kent in SD
Does the "i" stand for Instagram? I mean, how else are you going to take pictures that look like you were using expired Ektachrome?
When do you become a photographer? Let me answer a question with a question: "When does a boy become a man?"
It all depends on how you define "manhood."
Is it a definitive definition? Are you a man when you are 18 years old?
Is it a functional definition? Are you a man when you get married and have a family?
Is it a subjective definition? Are you a man when somebody calls you a man?
Is it defined by manifest reality? Are you a man when you can stand on your own two feet and say, "I am a man."
Are you a man when you learn how to hold you liquor? Are you a man when you join the military or fire a gun? Are you a man when you can drive a car?
The answer is "Yes" to all of the above.
The answer to the question of when you become a photographer is similar.
You can be a photographer when you learn how to use a camera and produce good photographs. You can be a photographer when you go into business and generate income. You can be a photographer when somebody else calls you one or you can be a photographer when you can stand up and say, "I am a photographer."
The bottom line to both questions has less to do with some definition of manhood or when you are a photographer and more to do with how you are identified. You can both identify yourself and others can identify you. You can be a man when somebody else calls you a man just as well as you can stand on your own two feet and declare your own manhood. Similarly, you can be a photographer when somebody else calls you a photographer just as well as you can identify yourself as a photographer.
Personally, I have three criteria for defining a photographer:
1) You can use a camera and produce photographs. With bias toward traditional photography or, at least, having a working understanding of traditional photography.
2) You identify yourself as a photographer, either verbally or with business cards and advertising.
3) Others recognize you as a photographer without you prompting them.
The first two are simple. Pick up a camera and hang out your shingle. Anybody can do that but, even if you can use your equipment to produce good photos and even if you take out a full page ad in the newspaper, I don't think you've made it. Close but not quite.
I think #3 is the key. Somebody you know or who you have made acquaintance must say, "My friend is a photographer." They don't necessarily have to say, "He's a photographer." Even then, I don't think you've fully satisfied the terms of point #3.
In addition to verbalizing it, I think, to fully satisfy the definition of "photographer," somebody has to see your pictures and like one of them well enough to voluntarily display it in their house, office or personal space.
As I said above, you are truly a photographer when you make a photograph that somebody else wants to hang on their wall without you asking them.
It all depends on how you define "manhood."
Is it a definitive definition? Are you a man when you are 18 years old?
Is it a functional definition? Are you a man when you get married and have a family?
Is it a subjective definition? Are you a man when somebody calls you a man?
Is it defined by manifest reality? Are you a man when you can stand on your own two feet and say, "I am a man."
Are you a man when you learn how to hold you liquor? Are you a man when you join the military or fire a gun? Are you a man when you can drive a car?
The answer is "Yes" to all of the above.
The answer to the question of when you become a photographer is similar.
You can be a photographer when you learn how to use a camera and produce good photographs. You can be a photographer when you go into business and generate income. You can be a photographer when somebody else calls you one or you can be a photographer when you can stand up and say, "I am a photographer."
The bottom line to both questions has less to do with some definition of manhood or when you are a photographer and more to do with how you are identified. You can both identify yourself and others can identify you. You can be a man when somebody else calls you a man just as well as you can stand on your own two feet and declare your own manhood. Similarly, you can be a photographer when somebody else calls you a photographer just as well as you can identify yourself as a photographer.
Personally, I have three criteria for defining a photographer:
1) You can use a camera and produce photographs. With bias toward traditional photography or, at least, having a working understanding of traditional photography.
2) You identify yourself as a photographer, either verbally or with business cards and advertising.
3) Others recognize you as a photographer without you prompting them.
The first two are simple. Pick up a camera and hang out your shingle. Anybody can do that but, even if you can use your equipment to produce good photos and even if you take out a full page ad in the newspaper, I don't think you've made it. Close but not quite.
I think #3 is the key. Somebody you know or who you have made acquaintance must say, "My friend is a photographer." They don't necessarily have to say, "He's a photographer." Even then, I don't think you've fully satisfied the terms of point #3.
In addition to verbalizing it, I think, to fully satisfy the definition of "photographer," somebody has to see your pictures and like one of them well enough to voluntarily display it in their house, office or personal space.
As I said above, you are truly a photographer when you make a photograph that somebody else wants to hang on their wall without you asking them.
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thanks randy that clarified it for me
i am a phptpgrapher now!
i am a phptpgrapher now!
World knows you who you are. So, just R L will be fine on the card.
Someone here had the paraphrased statement in their signature.
"If you buy a piano, you own a piano. If you buy a camera, you're a photographer"
Sounds right to me.
"If you buy a piano, you own a piano. If you buy a camera, you're a photographer"
Sounds right to me.
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