Because normal safelight will indeed fog film, the poster who said you could neglected to point out the specific wavelength of light to be able to inspect.I really appreciate the responses, but I am confused. Isn't my question a matter of science and not opinion? How can there be different answers to the same question?
I suppose if you are that desperate you could try strapping on some military grade night vision goggles,me I will keep my negatives in the tank.
Night vision devices, generation 1, are relatively inexpensive and they are useful. Toys are also available that are interesting and cheaper.I had never thought of that, the night vision goggles that is. Quite novel! There again a tank is easier.
There are a lot of good posts in this thread, but this one is an excellent and comprehensive explanation. This post is the kind of content that would be great for a resource/FAQ we could refer people to if we had one.An elaboration to clear up some possible confusion for the OP:
"Light-sensitive" means different things:
Panchromatic films are sensitive to all visible wavelengths of light plus some UV. The weakest sensitivity for these films is usually in the green area, hence the possibility of using a weak, dark green safelight for a limited time to inspect a developing negative. The small exposure doesn't expose the film to enough light to fog it. If you expose the film too long to the same safelight, however, it will fog the film, as oldtimermetoo found out. The link above to MichaelandPaula.com is the best guide for developing by inspection that I know of. Most of us prefer to use time/temp. and keep the film in total darkness. (Question: just why do you want to inspect your film while developing anyway?)
Orthochromatic film is sensitive to blue and green (and some UV) but not red. Therefore, it can be processed under a red safelight. Again, even too much "safe" light will fog the film; the safelight needs to be dim enough and the exposure short enough so that the film's exposure threshold is not reached.
Older photo emulsions (think plates/films from the 19th century) are sensitive to only blue and UV. These are usually referred to as "blue-sensitive" and can also be developed under a suitable safelight.
Emulsions on graded photo paper (i.e., not variable-contrast) are like these older emulsions; sensitive to only blue and UV. Safelights for these papers are usually amber or red.
Variable contrast papers are sensitive to blue and green, so an appropriate safelight, usually red, is needed. Amber is sometime used too if the paper's sensitivity allows.
Safelights are rarely 100% safe. They pass other wavelengths in addition to the desired ones. Therefore, it is a good idea to limit the exposure even to a safelight. Safelight tests are a routine part of setting up a darkroom.
Exposed and developed = Image; Exposed and fixed = No Image
Light-sensitive film gets exposed when struck by enough light of the colors it is sensitive too. This makes a latent image. This image needs to be turned into metallic silver somehow before it's visible. There used to be materials that would form a silver image with exposure to light alone (printing out paper or POP), but these are no longer commercially available. Nowadays, you need a chemical developer to do the job.
After the developing step, we stop the chemical reaction with a stop bath. Even though the development is stopped at this point, the film is still light-sensitive. You could expose it to light and put it back in the developer and develop more parts of the film that weren't exposed the first time. It is the fixer that removes the undeveloped, but still light-sensitive silver halides so that the film can't be exposed any more.
Fixer also removes exposed, but undeveloped silver halides. If you take exposed film and put it straight into the fixer, it will come out blank, even if you've exposed it to room light. Theoretically, therefore, you could expose film to light after the stop bath stage with no ill effects. The remaining silver halides will get exposed, but you can then just fix them out, since they are not developed. In practice, most of us keep the film in the dark till at least halfway through the fixing stage for a couple of reasons. First, if the stop is not complete, the remaining active developer will go to work on the newly-exposed silver halides, "solarizing" the image or, worse, fogging it. Second, if the light is strong enough, some film emulsions will fog a bit even without developer. Better to play it safe.
BTW, solarizing prints is used by many printers as a special effect; the print is exposed for a very short time to overall exposure (e.g., turning on the room lights) for a very short time while in the developer tray. Google for some images.
Hope this helps,
Doremus
Hi PE,On a scientific basis then, here are the dye types from blue only through ortho to pan to ir to far ir.
Hi PE,
Thanks for those, but they're incomplete.
They stop at 400nm, the upper end of blue. They don't continue into the UV range.
The first two spectra are still at full sensitivity at 400nm.
It would be interesting to see their response as you approach 300nm.
- Leigh
I have found in the past a dark green light is virtually useless. The same applies to RA4 colour paper under a green light. It can be circumvented by using a safelight which employs a Sodium Vapour bulb and that makes printing a little bit easier. However there is no mention nor have I heard anyone say these sodium vapour bulbs can be used with film because film is than more sensitive.
The long standing banter between myself and Bob Carnie involves the difference between Solarization (an in-camera process done while the film is dry) and the Sabbatier Effect (done in the darkroom while the film or print is wet). The result is similar but not exactly the same. This common error in terminology is shown above in the post by Doremus Scudder. I apologize for the correction, but it is a real difference and needs to be pointed out if we are to remain technically correct and get the results we expect.
PE
hi PE
this post is in the Black and White sub forum ...
that might be the reason people aren't worried about color paper and amber bulbs.
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