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Hello to All,
I am in the midst of a break from all "Wet Work" Instead, I am doing Hardware projects, like peristaltic pumps, tri-color cameras And studying the possibility of going to Digital Negatives. Having had several intensive conversations with practitioners of said on other forums, I am not at all convinced that there is any advantage over enlarging negatives on an enlarger. So, I may or may not upgrade my printer to current Epson professional technology.
In September I will get back to work on emulsion making.

Dose anyone know what the shelf life of solutions of chrome alum would be?
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"What's everybody up to?"

Had to say it!

Made pics of some Mary Kay Beautiful Girls!

Sample:

http://www.facebook.com/cristamk

Got another session in October! Around 50 beautiful ladies! And a great fee to boot!

Fun & Smiles!


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"What's everybody up to?"

Had to say it!

Made pics of some Mary Kay Beautiful Girls!

Sample:

http://www.facebook.com/cristamk

Got another session in October! Around 50 beautiful ladies! And a great fee to boot!

Fun & Smiles!


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Does this mean that Mary Kay ladies are coated with Silver Gelatin based emulsions?

:wink::wink::D
 

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Hi All,

If anyone is in the Washington, D.C. area in August, I'll have three prints in Scott Davis' (TheFlyingCamera) gallery, Art Reactor (http://artreactor.org/). Scott is curating a show featuring the Whole Plate format (6.5 x 8.5 inches). My contribution is contact prints from WP gelatin dry plates to handmade chlorobromide paper. I can't make it East to see the show. If someone here sees it, I hope they give a report. It looks like there's going to be some really nice prints and a great diversity. Kudos to Scott.

Kudos to you. Your three prints win the blue ribbon hands down. Lovely work.
 
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Hi Everyone,

I am very pleased to post that I will be teaching two weeks of silver gelatin emulsion-making at the Photographers' Formulary in June 2011. The two weeks will be divided into two separate classes. Week one is making and working with contact printing paper; week two is dry plate/artisan film emulsion making, shooting, and processing. The workshops can be taken individually, or together as soup-to-nuts antique artisan silver gelatin.

http://www.workshopsinmt.com/

I will make every effort to accommodate the experience and interest levels of each individual participating in the workshops. I'm a big believer in a friendly, cooperative learning environment. I think we'll all have a great time.

Also, the lineup in the Formulary schedule has a great piece of serendipity. Kerik Kouklis will be teaching pt/pd and gum the week following my dry plate workshop. Rather than an all-silver gelatin workflow, you could take dry plate/artisan film and follow it with Kerik's class, using the negatives you just made. So much fun, so little time! Carpe diem.

Denise Ross
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An additional emulsion workshop is coming up in January. PE / Ron Mowrey will be teaching a short class on basic gaslight paper-making at George Eastman House in Rochester, NY.

http://www.eastmanhouse.org/events/detail/photo-workshop-2-2011.

This is a great opportunity for anyone interested. I've taken a workshop from Ron, and it's not just emulsion science that you will learn. Ron is a first class bard of Kodak history and legend. Great fun.

And about that opportunity part: Mark Osterman, Ron, and I would like to stage a Silver Gelatin Symposium at GEH sometime soon'ish, hopefully by 2012. But, and here's the rub, interest must be demonstrated to the folks who fund these kinds of things -- interest in the tangible form of people paying money to take classes at GEH and elsewhere.

Artisan silver gelatin emulsionmaking education is in its infancy. It's a financial gamble for all concerned -- instructors and hosts alike (no one involved expects to make money, but no one can afford to lose it either). The Photographers' Formulary is giving me the whole workshop facility for two weeks in June (Bless their faith!!). At GEH and at the Formulary, the classes offered this year will probably have to prove themselves if they are to be offered again. Bottom line (figuratively and literally): as nice as websites, forums, books and videos may be, hands-on education, in a real workshop environment, is invaluable to learning a craft. This year, in this particular situation, if you can afford the time and money to take one class in NY or one or two in Montana (or all three :smile: ), you will not only be learning a unique skill, but you will be helping to guarantee that the education will be available in the future, including more advanced classes. 2011 is probably the make-or-break point.

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Thanks Denise.

I am tentatively scheduled to give another GEH workshop in the fall or early winter of 2011, but it all depends on the workshop in Jan. Mark and I have one of our Photo Engineer / GEH lunches this coming Thursday. I will have more information after my visit to GEH.

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Oh man, I wish I had the money to get on a plane and attend the workshop! I need a sponsor. :smile:
 

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Mark and I are going to begin setting up the lab in mid Dec. for the January 2011 workshop. We will make a few dry runs and an emulsion at GEH using my formula so that we can get off to good start when the class begins. We had a great lunch on Thursday the 28th, and I'll bet a lot of you would have wanted to be there! :wink:

I need an apprentice, not a sponsor. :D

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Mark and I are going to begin setting up the lab in mid Dec. for the January 2011 workshop. We will make a few dry runs and an emulsion at GEH using my formula so that we can get off to good start when the class begins. We had a great lunch on Thursday the 28th, and I'll bet a lot of you would have wanted to be there! :wink:

I need an apprentice, not a sponsor. :D

PE

If I was in the U.S. I'd be on my way over! :tongue:

An additional emulsion workshop is coming up in January. PE / Ron Mowrey will be teaching a short class on basic gaslight paper-making at George Eastman House in Rochester, NY.

http://www.eastmanhouse.org/events/detail/photo-workshop-2-2011.

This is a great opportunity for anyone interested. I've taken a workshop from Ron, and it's not just emulsion science that you will learn. Ron is a first class bard of Kodak history and legend. Great fun.

And about that opportunity part: Mark Osterman, Ron, and I would like to stage a Silver Gelatin Symposium at GEH sometime soon'ish, hopefully by 2012. But, and here's the rub, interest must be demonstrated to the folks who fund these kinds of things -- interest in the tangible form of people paying money to take classes at GEH and elsewhere.

Artisan silver gelatin emulsionmaking education is in its infancy. It's a financial gamble for all concerned -- instructors and hosts alike (no one involved expects to make money, but no one can afford to lose it either). The Photographers' Formulary is giving me the whole workshop facility for two weeks in June (Bless their faith!!). At GEH and at the Formulary, the classes offered this year will probably have to prove themselves if they are to be offered again. Bottom line (figuratively and literally): as nice as websites, forums, books and videos may be, hands-on education, in a real workshop environment, is invaluable to learning a craft. This year, in this particular situation, if you can afford the time and money to take one class in NY or one or two in Montana (or all three :smile: ), you will not only be learning a unique skill, but you will be helping to guarantee that the education will be available in the future, including more advanced classes. 2011 is probably the make-or-break point.

Denise

I'll see if I can make 2011.
 
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Hi PE,
If Rochester, NY is anything like Buffalo,NY I don't wanna go! I was one of those New Yorkers who never left the Five Burroughs. And rarely the 1. But I have been to Buffalo. Please keep it!
 
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A heads-up, if anyone here is still interested in making and using emulsions for their photography. I've located, purchased, and tested two thicknesses of subbed film, one perfect for sheet film and the other for roll. Retail!

I made a batch of film emulsion for my Baby Graphic (2-1/4 x 3-1/4) and tested a few holders at my local favorite spot -- familiar to me, yet a serious photographic challenge for anything but a point and shoot. Rousing success! So, I'm off to Minnesota for a week. I'm carrying the lens in my purse, the camera in my checked bag, and I shipped 18 loaded holders USPS to my mom's house. It will be interesting to see if this can be easy and successful enough to become a reasonable way to 'do photography'.

I'm bending your ear with all this in the hope that this forum can become active again with 'real' stuff. In my heart of hearts I can't imagine anyone not thinking making emulsions is the cat's meow :smile:.

Four prints (two here and two in following post). Yaquina Lighthouse, Newport, OR. Yesterday morning. Bright fog. Absolutely minimal post-processing. Details coming soon.
 

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Denise,
The Staircase image is Great! But I am gonna stick to glass negatives! "Why?" one might ask. When fillm backing is earier to tote about. Just because I love glass. Besides, I have never been a high volume shooter. The cost of AgNO3 is making me slow down. I have 15 dry plates in my dark cabinet, waiting to be evaluated. But I have been occupied with other things. And also, I have been kinda slugish lately. I hope its not old age, because there ain't no cure for dat. I am hoping that my newest "comitment": Exersize every morning, will pull me out of it.
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And, while you do that, I am making up solutions and 10% gelatin for the workshop in October. Mark and I will be getting together to set up the lab on the 29th or 30th, and probably have lunch with a few of the guys. I have arranged for between 2 and 4 of the lunch group to join us for the workshop to offer comments and answer questions.

The workshop is filled and there is a waiting list at this time. Don't let this discourage anyone from at least signing up in case there is a last minute opening that takes place.

The sample DVDs shipped last week and the bulk boxes of DVD sets are sitting here next to me ready for shipping.

So, I have not been idle either.

Oh, and I have found 2 subbing layers for Acetate that may be of interest here so that ANY acetate support can be used for coating as long as it has nothing else coated on it that might detract from the photographic emulsion. I just need a minute or two to whip up the formula into more usable terms.

Best wishes to all.

PE
 

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Denise ,

Lighthouse in fog image is great , it reminded me a book lighthouse at the end of the world book from jules verne , I read 30 years ago , one afternoon when I was at elementary and sick. Than I watched Kirk Douglas , Jul Bryner film and best memories ever. I liked the images carbon pencil which swirled with fingers like appearance. Very original look.

thank you very much for sharing , great art piece.

Umut
 
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Bill and Mustafa. Thank you for the kind words. They mean a lot.

Ron. Good luck with your workshop. A while back, I sent Mark three prints -- a contact print of a Whole Plate dry plate on my paper, a contact print of a commercial 5"x7" negative on the same recipe, and a 5-color silvergum print. I know you like to keep a monopoly on d.i.y. emulsions, and I can appreciate that, but I can't imagine a downside to showing folks what can be done. If you would, could you guys show around my prints to your workshop participants?

Also, if anyone is really interested in subbing acetate rather than purchasing subbed polyester, I have an excellent recipe. It does contain acetone and methyl alcohol, and it's stinky, so if there is something that smells better, I'd love to see the recipe. Ron, I know you won't have time until after the workshop, but looking forward to seeing it/them.

Flying off to pursue Luddite dreams,
d :smile:
 
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Denise, I am a bit confused by your words "keep a monopoly on". I don't have a web site concerning emulsions, you do. Many of us post here on APUG about emulsions including yourself. So, IDK what this is about.

As for items sent to Mark, please address your request to him. He has never mentioned your items to me at all, and the request that he use your work should come to him directly from you IMHO. Both of us will be teaching the course together. He is writing the outline and preparing the handout booklet. I am supplying formulas. And BTW, this will make quite a group of former students that will have extensive formulas and information on analog film and paper design given to them. This extends over more than 5 years of workshops here, in NYC and in Montana at the Formulary.

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Denise - great shots! I see you've been making the most of our cold summer here in Oregon.
 

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Kirk,
Glad to read that you are still alive and consious! How is that T-Grain emulsion comming along?
Denise and Ron and Everyone,
Denise's refference to "Silver-Gum" reminded me of an idea first posed (as far as I know) by Jim Browning, of Dye Transfer fame. He posed the posibilty of adding pigments to dye sensitised silver-halide emulsions for printing color separation work. This has always been in the back of my mind as I work on a panchromatic emulsion. Or even a 3-emulsion system, using 2 dyes. I wonder if anyone reading this post is awaire of any process,past or pressent that uses this concept.(?)
I ruined my last emulsion by being too stingy with my AgNO3. Images were just too weak. Now I must wait for my 29% ammonia (absolutely reqired) to arrive. Then I will up the Ag concentration a whopping X4.
Cheers,
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Bill - i'm just hanging out up here, playing with my synthesizers for the summer.
 
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