I'm finally coming around on the benefits of 2-bath fixing, which I've resisted for a long time due to very limited darkroom counter space. I use TF-5. Trying to decide on an exact workflow, I'm leaning towards the following:
1. Start keeping separate bottles of fixer for film and paper. Film fixer gets a time-to-clear test when I'm developing a roll/sheet of film, and the final fix time will be 2x the clear time until it's annoyingly long or the fixer has passed its published capacity (TF-5). Alternatively.
2. For paper, keep two bottles of working strength TF-5 (standard 1+3 dilution in the published documentation).
3. After developer and water stop, fiber paper gets 1 minute in fixer bath #1, then goes into a large water holding bath until the end of the print session (generally no more than 2 hours; I can only print when my kids are asleep for the night)
4. At the end of the print session, all "keeper" prints get 1 additional minute in fixer bath #2, then a quick rinse, selenium toner, hypo clearing agent, and a final wash.
5. At some point, bath #1 is discarded, bath #2 becomes bath #1, and fresh fixer is mixed up to be the new bath #2. Presumably I'd want to have some kind of test for bath #1 to determine when it's ready to be disposed of. Is a film clearing test at the beginning of a print session workable for this test? What's the best way, in your opinion, to determine when bath #1 is done? Simply tracking the number of 8x10s I've put through it seems kind of problematic, because bath #2 will already have some, probably variable, number of sheets through it by the time it gets downgraded to bath #1. Open to suggestions here.
For FB paper, I go with two minutes in first fix then two minutes in second fix, then into water rinse and drain until I'm finished then a couple of minutes in HCA and off to final wash . After ten 8x10 prints the first fix is dumped and second fix moves up to first place and fresh second fix is used. I use EcoPro Neutral 1+7 dilution. Ilford claims you can use film strength fix in a single bath and skip the second fix.
For FB paper: 2 times 3 min in a neutral-to-alkalic C-41 fixer by Fuji-Hunt, then a good rinse, 2 min in 2% Na2SO3, 3 min in K.R.S.T. 1+6, 2min K.H.C., final wash following the Ilford method.
BHuji,I'm finally coming around on the benefits of 2-bath fixing, which I've resisted for a long time due to very limited darkroom counter space. I use TF-5. Trying to decide on an exact workflow, I'm leaning towards the following:
1. Start keeping separate bottles of fixer for film and paper. Film fixer gets a time-to-clear test when I'm developing a roll/sheet of film, and the final fix time will be 2x the clear time until it's annoyingly long or the fixer has passed its published capacity (TF-5). Alternatively.
2. For paper, keep two bottles of working strength TF-5 (standard 1+3 dilution in the published documentation).
3. After developer and water stop, fiber paper gets 1 minute in fixer bath #1, then goes into a large water holding bath until the end of the print session (generally no more than 2 hours; I can only print when my kids are asleep for the night)
4. At the end of the print session, all "keeper" prints get 1 additional minute in fixer bath #2, then a quick rinse, selenium toner, hypo clearing agent, and a final wash.
5. At some point, bath #1 is discarded, bath #2 becomes bath #1, and fresh fixer is mixed up to be the new bath #2. Presumably I'd want to have some kind of test for bath #1 to determine when it's ready to be disposed of. Is a film clearing test at the beginning of a print session workable for this test? What's the best way, in your opinion, to determine when bath #1 is done? Simply tracking the number of 8x10s I've put through it seems kind of problematic, because bath #2 will already have some, probably variable, number of sheets through it by the time it gets downgraded to bath #1. Open to suggestions here.
When it is fixed it is fixed and you don't need two bath fixation to do this.
Isn’t “When” the crucial word here? I will let others detail the chemistry, but my vague understanding is that contaminants in the fixer block its intended action. The point of two fixer baths is to minimise this problem.
Indeed! A one-bath fixing regime for fiber-base paper works just fine. The late PE did just that and found it most convenient for him. Others too.When it is fixed it is fixed and you don't need two bath fixation to do this.
Indeed! A one-bath fixing regime for fiber-base paper works just fine. The late PE did just that and found it most convenient for him. Others too.
Doremus
My FB prints are 30 years old, alive and kicking, and I never did 2 baths fixing. I started with 2 bath fixing films when T-grain came around and films stayed magenta if not.
Yes, certainly. Fiber-base paper comes in lots of finishes, as does RC paper. I wasn't referring to a finish, but rather the type of paper...It also works for gloss and any other surface finish.
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