what is the image date?

[RalphLambrecht]

what do you consider the image date? when it was captured,last edited, or finally printed?

 

[etn]

To me, captured.

What do others think?

 

[winger]

For me, it depends on the method. For most work, I guess I consider the shooting date. If it takes more than ordinary work to get a print, I'd think about using the printing date. For my Mordançage prints, it's definitely the date I did the Mordançage and not the original shooting or printing date. For lith prints and any contact methods, I'd go with the print date, too.
Many exhibitions around here have a requirement that the work entered be created in the previous three years (sometimes even just two years). I know some photographers are pretty vague with that date.

 

[juan]

Some museums want both the date the negative was shot and the date the print was made. For some reason, the prints made closer to the negative date are held in higher regard. I’ve seen some very early prints of Ansel Adams negatives exposed in the 30s and 40s. These early prints are much smaller and less dramatic than the later prints that we know today. Obviously his artistic vision changed. Why the earlier prints are more valued, I don’t know. Both are good, just different. Sorry for rambling.

 

[Peltigera]

When I exhibit with our local Artist's Society the rules state that the work submitted must have been produced in the last three years. I take that to be the date of printing - sometimes the capture date is decades earlier.

 

[Doremus Scudder]

I label all my prints on the back of the matboard with my name, the print title, the date the negative was made and the date the print was made. As I revisit negatives to reprint them, my skills are often better and my concept more clear than when the earlier prints were made. The resulting prints are different than the earlier ones, therefore, it seems logical to have a "print made" date in addition to the date the actual capture was made.

Should be pretty easy to do for digital capture as well.

Best,

Doremus

 

[bsdunek]

To me, the piece is in progress until the final print is matted and framed - so that's the date.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

For me, it depends on the method. For most work, I guess I consider the shooting date. If it takes more than ordinary work to get a print, I'd think about using the printing date. For my Mordançage prints, it's definitely the date I did the Mordançage and not the original shooting or printing date. For lith prints and any contact methods, I'd go with the print date, too.
Many exhibitions around here have a requirement that the work entered be created in the previous three years (sometimes even just two years). I know some photographers are pretty vague with that date.

That's exactly the issue;I like to enter some work, taken a few years ago but just got around to optimize it with recently acquired PS skills!

 

[Bob Carnie]

I usually mark the date that it was taken and the date that it was printed... some people think this is important and I think its not a bad idea.

 

[removed account4]

hi ralph

can you mention both dates ?
image taken ( date 1 )
image printed/processed/ &c ( date 2 )

i do that sometimes



** bob beat me to it ..

 

[Bob Carnie]

I should point out that I do not do this for any images that are not archival, cprints , inkjets, there seems to be no point.

It also should be obvious that most images will never last the test of time as great images so therefore the value of this practice is limited to a few..
I want the prints I make to last over 500 years, therefore I go down this route to sign my archival prints..

in 2517 someone may say what silly bastard made this image of a dress, and if the pencil markings are still good it would say Printed by Bob Carnie 2017 - Gum Dicromate over Palladium.Dress Series #2

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Negative made....
Print made...

 

[faberryman]

what do you consider the image date? when it was captured,last edited, or finally printed?

I consider the image date the date of capture, and the print date the date printed. I think that is how it is generally handled by galleries.

 

[ced]

Exif data records capture date (digital) the rest is not so important in my view other than for recording purposes & general information.

 

[Sirius Glass]

When the photograph was taken or the image was made.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

When the photograph was taken or the image was made.

thanks for all the input; I think listing capture and print date is the solution.

 

[JBrunner]

I date the print. It is the point of the process. It is the artifact that matters. YMMV

 

[David Brown]

thanks for all the input; I think listing capture and print date is the solution.

I do this. Mainly because of convention. I wonder what other visual artists do. Painters, etc.?

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I do this. Mainly because of convention. I wonder what other visual artists do. Painters, etc.?

When I paint, draw or printmake, it's dated on the back.

 

[faberryman]

For prints in museum collection, you usually know both. If you know both, indicate both. I just indicate the print date on my prints. They are not going to end up in a museum. I usually print a project before I move on to a new project so the print and negative date are within a few months of one another.

 

[slackercrurster]

I use 2 dates on the print. Date shot and date printed.

For online it is the date shot.

A vintage print is considered a print made within a year or two of when it was taken. But no hard rules on this.

 

[~andi]

Dates are for technocrats, business people and historians. A good picture is a good picture. What's up with this preoccupation with datum. Time was irrelevant till someone invented the clock which resulted in a process to make man act more like a machine...

 

[Pieter12]

Date shot, date printed (or digitally processed). The late Henry Wessel would wait a year before printing his negatives, to allow him to rediscover the shot and maybe bring a different interpretation than the day he made it. Ansel Adams printed the same negative differently over the course of time. So the print date imparts equally important information as does the shot date.