HerrBremerhaven said:I think when looking at art history there have constantly been attempts to define or structure art, or fine art. The funny aspect of that is the many great movements of art that were in rebellion to established, highly regarded, or accepted academic notions.
blansky said:But why would anyone care what the "academics" have to say anyways.
I would be interested in seeing their lists of accomplishments.
Michael
goros said:And back to fine art photography, every month, there is a section in Black & White Photography magazine ( the British one) called Golden Oldie. In it, the work of a photographer from other time is shown. Most of them were magazine photographers (Life, Picture Post, Town & Country, Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, etc) and the pictures show the elegant and beautiful people of the time, as well as other artists and now, all this images are own by Getty Images. Well at the end of the section you could read:
"Fine-art prints of these classic images, and many others, can be purchased through the Getty Images Gallery by calling...".
Cheers
lee said:I always assume nekkid girls when I see "Fine Art Photography"
but that is just me.
lee\c
blansky said:Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Michael
Fine art photography = Phi * $10 * (((# of "art" classes taken)^(# of non-art friends the "artist" has)) * (# of times "artist" mentions "vision" in their artist's statement) * (# of times per day "artist" says people don't understand "art") )/((average edition size) *(# of "fine art" photos "artist" has actually sold)*(# of shots per film type used))
Phi = "Fineness Factor"
= 1 for digicrap
= 2 for "traditional" color
= 3 for "silver gelatin" B&W
= 4 for "archivally toned" B&W
Fine art photography = Phi * $10 * (((# of "art" classes taken)^(# of non-art friends the "artist" has)) * (# of times "artist" mentions "vision" in their artist's statement) * (# of times per day "artist" says people don't understand "art") )/((average edition size) *(# of "fine art" photos "artist" has actually sold)*(# of shots per film type used))
Phi = "Fineness Factor"
= 1 for digicrap
= 2 for "traditional" color
= 3 for "silver gelatin" B&W
= 4 for "archivally toned" B&W
= 5 for alt processes
= 100 for hand coated paper and film ... all chemistry mixed from scratch.. after all.. anything less is an automated process
Well I have just read 10 pages of total bo--oks, I will leave the artists and academics among you to squabble on.
I only strive to be a craftsman, to render that which I saw and felt when I released the shutter in the finished print, in such a manner that the viewer will also share and appreciate that experiance.
You may call it what you will, I make pictures.
As a final thought, great artists were/are craftsmen/woman. They didnot talk about it they DID IT.
Regards to all Paul.
I did it. I like doing it. Anyone else feel like doing it?
A good search term to use in your html meta files so the thousands of people using it to search for photography can find you.So can someone define "Fine Art Photography" for me please?
. . . I dont think doing a comissioned work of art is in any way at all even close to being similar to creating works explicitly for sale. . . .
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Sometimes they are much alike. A photographer can apply the same creative and technical ability to a subject prescribed by a client as to a subject of his own choice. The best analogy that comes to mind outside the field of photography is music. Mozart was the ultimate commercial composer. Some of his works were done on commission. Others were done in hopes of sales or lucrative contacts. Some were done for his own public performances. A few were done with no known specific end use. Despite these varied goals, the quality is consistantly good, and sometimes great.
Photographers can well consider commissioned photos as a challange, not as a chore. Ruth Bernhard's commercial work sometimes shows as much creativity as her photographs that we would consider fine art. Karsh of Ottawa created masterpieces while doing commercial portraits. It's the photograph, not the reasons for its creation, that might make it a masterpiece. Unfortunately, an influential critic or a wealthy patron can help, too.
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