What is "Fine Art"?

Pieter12 · May 10, 2022

Pieter12 said:
Today, an adult diaper could be fine art.

Don Heisz said:
It could be fine art. It would probably be crappy fine art, though.

Well there is "Artist's Shit" by Piero Manzoni and "Piss Christ" by Andres Serrano. Not to mention R. Mutt's (Marcel Duchamp) "Fountain."

KenS · May 10, 2022

Sirius Glass said:
Well that Depends!

That is probably the 'best 'punny response to any and all replies U have ever had the opportunity to 'read'

Ken

Sirius Glass · May 10, 2022

KenS said:
That is probably the 'best 'punny response to any and all replies U have ever had the opportunity to 'read'

Ken

I am ever so glad that I moved you! Would you like a framed photograph of me for the bathroom to help keep you motivated?

VinceInMT · May 13, 2022

As I write this I am on Day 3 of a 5 day visit to the Venice Biennale which is, arguably, featuring some of the best in contemporary art today. Pretty much every artist exhibition is accompanied by an artist statement which, for some, really does help explain what their work is trying to say.

amam · May 13, 2022

VinceInMT said:
As I write this I am on Day 3 of a 5 day visit to the Venice Biennale which is, arguably, featuring some of the best in contemporary art today. Pretty much every artist exhibition is accompanied by an artist statement which, for some, really does help explain what their work is trying to say.

Like you have reported I have heard this years exhibition is just wonderful. Don't forget to tip the gondolier.

gone · May 13, 2022

I suspect the one aspect of fine art that we can all agree on is bad art. We know that when we see it.

I've tried to watch this "art film" about Dylan's life that used 6 different actors to play him called "I'm Not There" several times and failed. Total disaster, terrible lighting and directing, etc, yet highly rated at IMDB.

So went to the User Reviews and looked at the ones rated 3 out of 10...yep, they saw the same film I saw. Looked at the 2 and 1 ratings too, LOTS of those.

These are hilarious reviews to read, just the titles are very funny, and very, very accurate. This film made it to the level of Bad Art w/ room to spare.

I'm Not There (2007) - User reviews - IMDb

I'm Not There (2007) - Movies, TV, Celebs, and more...

www.imdb.com

Pieter12 · May 13, 2022

momus said:
I suspect the one aspect of fine art that we can all agree on is bad art. We know that when we see it.

I've tried to watch this "art film" about Dylan's life that used 6 different actors to play him called "I'm Not There" several times and failed. Total disaster, terrible lighting and directing, etc, yet highly rated at IMDB.

So went to the User Reviews and looked at the ones rated 3 out of 10...yep, they saw the same film I saw. Looked at the 2 and 1 ratings too, LOTS of those.

These are hilarious reviews to read, just the titles are very funny, and very, very accurate. This film made it to the level of Bad Art w/ room to spare.

I'm Not There (2007) - User reviews - IMDb

I'm Not There (2007) - Movies, TV, Celebs, and more...

www.imdb.com

Just goes to show the we can't all agree on what is bad art, either.

TJones · May 13, 2022

momus said:
I suspect the one aspect of fine art that we can all agree on is bad art. We know that when we see it.

And since we all see things differently, don't expect much agreement on that either.

MattKing · May 13, 2022

A few years ago when I originally watched that movie I found it to be quite interesting. Although I didn't think it was really about Bob Dylan, but rather about how others created in their minds and in public different "folklore" versions of Bob Dylan.

VinceInMT · May 14, 2022

amam said:
Like you have reported I have heard this years exhibition is just wonderful. Don't forget to tip the gondolier.

It is wonderful and met all my expectations and then some. It took us 3-1/2 days but we made it through all the main exhibitions, the national pavilions, and most of the satellite pavilions. Tomorrow we are having a morning urban sketch session and then head to Lido Beach. On Monday we travel to Florence for 3 days there.

I am one of 7 university students along with two professors doing as study abroad. Several of so graduated with our BFAs last week. I am the oldest in the group, turning 70 in 2 weeks. I am keeping a blog so, if anyone is interest is seeing what is going on here, you can find out here:

https://msub2italy2022.blogspot.com/

amam · May 14, 2022

Thank you for the BLOG address, I will read it. I am quite envious. This experience sounds like the 70th Birthday I would like to have.
Safe Travels

KenS · Jul 6, 2022

Sirius Glass said:
Well that Depends!

Sirius

You sir, have just been caught posting an advertisement which i thought was 'somewhat against the rules'

Ken

Sirius Glass · Jul 6, 2022

KenS said:
Sirius

You sir, have just been caught posting an advertisement which i thought was 'somewhat against the rules'

Ken

That is not an advertisement, for some it is a necessity!

KenS · Jul 7, 2022

Sirius Glass said:
I am ever so glad that I moved you! Would you like a framed photograph of me for the bathroom to help keep you motivated?

1.
Yes-amise (as my 'first born' use to say... But only as a "platinum' on a large sheet using guaranteed archival paper. with gold toning. AND the photograph framed in a 99.5 pure gold (if your nearest Walmart store has any inn stock AND 'on the shelf" ready to go).

2. How do you intend to keep the camera 'dry'? Do you have access to a good quality 'protection device'. This somewhat curious mind would like to know If you will have an under-water camera that will not 'perish' on being 'hit' by your 'output?

Ken
aka "BAD Ken (or just "Grumpy" while we are on a 'stand-by warning' of a
bad tornado within the next hour )or so. "They" warned us with the same last evening.. it can't have been that bad.. 'cos I never heard anything (other than the occasional 'snore/snort' from "She Who MUST Be Obeyed.

Ken

psmithp · Jul 3, 2024

Try the nonsense or negation test: is there such a thing as coarse art?

Pieter12 · Jul 3, 2024

psmithp said:
Try the nonsense or negation test: is there such a thing as coarse art?

Sure there is.

psmithp · Jul 3, 2024

Pieter12 said:
Sure there is.

That you announce as coarse art?

Pieter12 · Jul 3, 2024

psmithp said:
That you announce as coarse art?

Vulgar or rough. But it could still be "fine art."

Don_ih · Jul 3, 2024

psmithp said:
Try the nonsense or negation test: is there such a thing as coarse art?

I guess you didn't read the thread. I don't blame you.

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