What happened to all the non photographers film cameras?

[BradS]

Gas was the cheapest liquid you can buy back then.

but at 10 MPG cars drank a lot of it!

...and milk was probably less expensive

 

[MattKing]

Up here milk is about $5.00 per 4 litres (1.06 US gallons)
And regular gas is close to the same.

 

[Cholentpot]

Up here milk is about $5.00 per 4 litres (1.06 US gallons)
And regular gas is close to the same.

Gas has been as low as .99 in the past year. It's been hovering around 1.75-2.00

 

[AgX]

AFAIK all but a few box cameras had a simple meniscus and only the Tengor a dublet.

That was my point, I say that the average type 110 cameras had better lenses than the classic box cameras.

 

[BradS]

Up here milk is about $5.00 per 4 litres (1.06 US gallons)
And regular gas is close to the same.

Yes, but we were referring to “back then”.

Interesting though. Today milk is about $4 per gallon and regular, 87 octane, gasoline is somewhere around $3.00 per gallon?

 

[Helios 1984]

But there are still people presenting me their 1999 bill of 150€ or more for their AF-compact and who cannot believe that I am seriously only offering them 3€.

My neighbour did a garage sale, about 2 years ago, he wanted 300$ for his Rebel G body :-/ I politely declined.

I won't mix total garbage a.k.a. APS or whatever this never really lived crap is called and 135 traditional film format P&S.

APS wasn’t garbage at all, it just arrived 10 years too late and ended up being blamed for the fall of Rome.

 

[Sirius Glass]

My neighbour did a garage sale, about 2 years ago, he wanted 300$ for his Rebel G body :-/ I politely declined.



APS wasn’t garbage at all, it just arrived 10 years too late and ended up being blamed for the fall of Rome.

It is also blamed for slowing the Earth's rotation rate.

 

[Helge]

APS wasn’t garbage at all, it just arrived 10 years too late and ended up being blamed for the fall of Rome.

Disc wasn’t garbage. If you can accept Minox as a viable format, there is no reason why you shouldn’t accept Disc.
It had potential. Not to replace 135, but to fill much the same niche that Phones does today.
Indeed many of the same ideas on phones now, was pioneered with Disc cameras.
Selfie mirrors and sticks, lens bumps, flat bodies, high quality molded lenses etc.

APS was obviously inspired by the cine frame and common peoples contentment with small enlargements.
That frame was small for no obvious reason though. Not much was really saved in size or cost.

PE suggested once that it might have to do with Kodak wanting to create a bridge between digital and film. For example lenses would be interchangeable between the two.

Remember Kodak was actually world leader in sensors for quite a few years. But they where far too slow in making actual hardware of their own.
When they finally did, it was too little too late.
The sensor was wonderful, but the interface and form factor sucked.

 

[Cholentpot]

My neighbour did a garage sale, about 2 years ago, he wanted 300$ for his Rebel G body :-/ I politely declined.



APS wasn’t garbage at all, it just arrived 10 years too late and ended up being blamed for the fall of Rome.

I was given a 500N with a 135 FD lens for free and was thanked for taking it. Came with a nice leather bag too. And a few rolls of film.

 

[AgX]

APS was obviously inspired by the cine frame and common peoples contentment with small enlargements.
That frame was small for no obvious reason though. Not much was really saved in size or cost.

PE suggested once that it might have to do with Kodak wanting to create a bridge between digital and film. For example lenses would be interchangeable between the two.

Remember Kodak was actually world leader in sensors for quite a few years. But they where far too slow in making actual hardware of their own.

One should not overlook that APS was a project tackled by conglomerate of several camera- and film-manufacturers. Kodak likely had no chance to implement a format not to the satisfaction of the others.

 

[Helge]

One should not overlook that APS was a project tackled by conglomerate of several camera- and film-manufacturers. Kodak likely had no chance to implement a format not to the satisfaction of the others.

I don’t think anyone overlooked that.
It was an obvious choice to create a rift or split in the market.
All of the things done with APS could have been implemented with a slightly modified backwards compatible Kodak Retina cassette. You could even have gone half frame, if the size of the frame was an issue.

 

[AgX]

Part of the restrictions imposed by the type 135 (Retina) cassette was its hub sticking out. (Which was ommited in the Kara/Rapid/SL cassettes, which had their own shortcomings.)

 

[alanrockwood]

I think the cheap point and shoot cameras all ended up in the same place as those "disappeared" ball point pens. There is a giant cavern under the earth where they are kept and watched over by Smurfs, with pens in one pile and cameras in the other.

 

[George Mann]

A neighbor and friend threw out his Hasselblad system when he thought film was over.

Did he also throw out all his records when cd's came around?